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To: C19fan

They’re here and they’re going to stay here no matter how much we don’t like it. I support a two-pronged Republican approach:

1. Secure the border (a real border security plan, not Obama’s or McCain’s half-assed approach).
2. For those all ready here, issue them red-cards which lets them work and pay taxes, but does not give them any special benefits (like in-state tuition for schools). A red-card would keep track of them and require them to go back to wherever they came from upon expiration and would not give them a pathway to citizenship. Those that don’t have a card or commit crimes would be deported and a secure border would keep them out and from coming back.


7 posted on 12/05/2014 6:11:44 AM PST by CedarDave
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To: CedarDave

CedarDave wrote:
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I disagree. For starters, if stiff penalties were leveled against businesses that hire illegal aliens, it would result in fewer jobs available to illegals, thus enticing fewer of them to cross our border illegally and those already here inevitably having little choice but to self-deport.

I say let’s stop rewarding lawbreakers and criminals with green cards and red cards, shall we?


29 posted on 12/05/2014 9:06:11 AM PST by DestroyLiberalism
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To: CedarDave
"Secure the border (a real border security plan..."

I'm with you, but I have concluded that short of a complete Tea Party takeover of the government (at least I can dream) the border is NEVER going to be secured. Not tomorrow, next year, or ever. If either party was serious about it they would do it immediately, because to do so would remove a major source of anxiety regarding the rest of their amnesty plans. They would almost certainly face significantly less opposition to amnesty if they just secured the border first. Yet they refuse...why?

I think the reasons are obvious. For Democrats, they never want to secure the border because despite all of their rationalizations for amnesty, what they really are trying to do is to import an ignorant dependent class that can outnumber (and outvote) Americans. They've simply decided that they would rather govern Mexicans or Guatemalans, or whatever, rather than Americans and are now trying to create just such a scenario

Establishment Republicans will never support securing the border in any meaningful way because once they grant amnesty to the illegals already here, the cost of employing those now legal workers will increase. Therefore, in order to maintain the pipeline of slave labor for their corporate donors, they will need to continuously import new crops of illegals who are willing to work for next to nothing just to be able to stay here. I would therefore expect endless cycles of amnesty, followed by more illegals, followed by subsequent amnesties, with next to zero effective border enforcement throughout. Republicans have decided that they would rather employ Mexicans, or Guatemalans, or whatever, rather than Americans, and are pursuing that scenario.

We truly do have domestic enemies in our midst these days, and they exist in both parties.

43 posted on 12/05/2014 7:19:18 PM PST by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: CedarDave

So you think giving them a piece of paper and then give them rules to adhere to will work????

How about the babies they spew out like wet watermellon seeds? Will they get any bennies? You Bet!

These freeloading invaders from the south of the border do not obey any rules at all. Worse yet, by not obeying laws they now receive the gift of actual money, food, medical care and housing from real Americans just for being a foreign “undocumented” criminal.

Wise up: It’s like trying to wash a swarm of ants off your body by using honey.


49 posted on 12/06/2014 8:57:29 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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