Posted on 12/04/2014 3:38:54 PM PST by QT3.14
Eric Garner and Michael Brown had much in common, not the least of which was this: On the last day of their lives, they made bad decisions. Epically bad decisions.
Each broke the law — petty offenses, to be sure, but sufficient to attract the attention of the police.
And then — tragically, stupidly, fatally, inexplicably — each fought the law.
The law won, of course, as it almost always does.
This was underscored yet again Wednesday when a Staten Island grand jury chose not to indict any of the arresting officers in the death in police custody of Garner last July.
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Author is an idiot
The EMT’s just looked at him like he was a car and they going to wish the problem away, as they don’t know a thing.
They provided no aid that I observed.
Just looked at him.
Bob McManus, just writing what he’s told to write.
Same with the cops. They knew he was in distress, but they did nothing.
Shameful.
In my opinion, once a police officer is cleared of any wrongdoing in a fatality that results from resisting arrest, then the cause of death on the Death Certificate should officially be changed to “Suicide by Attacking Police” ... or SAP for short.
Always wrong but, never in doubt...
If he was having a seizure, all bets are off. They may thought he was resisting.
The GJ should have indicted him and let it play out. Now the Feds will get him for sure, like the cops in the Rodney King case.
He wasn’t selling stolen goods. He was selling his own cigarettes. If selling something privately to bypass taxes is worthy of having 4 cops pile on top of you, all Ebay sellers should have swat teams sent to their door.
BINGO!!!
Resisting arrest! Ding, ding, ding!
When the officer says get on the ground, get on the ground. You are NOT going to win! LOL
Agree to a point. If he had not resisted arrest, there would have been no choke hold.
People are kind of dumb to think they are going to win in a match with a cop.
You know that may be a good solution. Let them get to 100% black men killed by blacks instead of 98%.
By the same token, he should have let them arrest him. That said, when he's on the ground, in distress because of police action, the police should have rendered aide...even if it's calling the paramedics.
strongarm robbery is not a minor offense.
Can I ask a question? In such cases of such a minor offense can someone just be issued with a fine and then have to either pay it or appear in court at a later date.
Here in Australia such a minor offense would mean the lawbreaker would be issued with an “On the spot fine” If they wish to challenge it they could do so by filling out the form on the back of the fine - if they do not pay they get a summons to appear in court and would end up in more trouble for not paying and things can escalate to arrest and imprisonment from there (which it rarely does). It saves so many man hours for both the Police and the Courts - people get some punishment for the crime and everybody goes home alive.
“the one cop seems to have made a deadly mistake.”
And numerous others saw and chose to ignore the deadly mistake.
I would suggest these people would also be uncomfortable with that idea.
President of Congress
1. John Hancock (Massachusetts)
New Hampshire
2. Josiah Bartlett
3. William Whipple
4. Matthew Thornton
Massachusetts
5. Samuel Adams
6. John Adams
7. Robert Treat Paine
8. Elbridge Gerry
Rhode Island
9. Stephen Hopkins
10. William Ellery
Connecticut
11. Roger Sherman
12. Samuel Huntington
13. William Williams
14. Oliver Wolcott
New York
15. William Floyd
16. Philip Livingston
17. Francis Lewis
18. Lewis Morris
New Jersey
19. Richard Stockton
20. John Witherspoon
21. Francis Hopkinson
22. John Hart
23. Abraham Clark
Pennsylvania
24. Robert Morris
25. Benjamin Rush
26. Benjamin Franklin
27. John Morton
28. George Clymer
29. James Smith
30. George Taylor
31. James Wilson
32. George Ross
Delaware
33. George Read
34. Caesar Rodney
35. Thomas McKean
Maryland
36. Samuel Chase
37. William Paca
38. Thomas Stone
39. Charles Carroll of Carrollton
Virginia
40. George Wythe
41. Richard Henry Lee
42. Thomas Jefferson
43. Benjamin Harrison
44. Thomas Nelson, Jr.
45. Francis Lightfoot Lee
46. Carter Braxton
North Carolina
47. William Hooper
48. Joseph Hewes
49. John Penn
South Carolina
50. Edward Rutledge
51. Thomas Heyward, Jr.
52. Thomas Lynch, Jr.
53. Arthur Middleton
Georgia
54. Button Gwinnett
55. Lyman Hall
56. George Walton
He was arrested over 30 times previously for the same offense and survived. Why did he decide to resist arrest this time? The majority of these crooks know what they are doing is against the law, yet continue in the same pattern of law breaking. And then they have the audacity to wonder why the cops are back to arrest them.
When the cops are doing their jobs by trying to enforce the laws, the perps are whining they're being "harassed." I listened to their whining behind bars for 25 years as a correction officer. Of course none of them were ever guilty, all of them had been framed. Write a disciplinary report, or put them in the box for misbehavior, and they'd get one of their homies to call their Mommy, who in turn would call the prison demanding to know why her little boy was locked up. What a bunch of pussies.
Indeed. What happens when the police are wrong? Like when they open fire on your truck because it vaguely looks like a truck they're looking for?
Is it now the case that we're obligated to submit to summary execution because 'resisting' even deadly force will upset those who like licking boots?
My take-away from all of this is to treat every interaction with law enforcement as a dangerous and potentially deadly interaction. I'll be prepared to defend myself and my family because, like the jack-boot-lickers like to say, the only thing that matters is that I get to go home at the end of the day.
See, if it's just peachy for the police to use excessive force in the name of protecting themselves then it's just peachy for me to do the same.
Is that what we've come to? Or maybe we might want to dial down the ridiculous laws and the absurd enforcement practices that have a growing number of people looking at police as an occupying force.
What you see on the vid is a carotid hold, not a chokehold. They are different. Garner died of a heart attack.
He was held by a partial carotid hold (different from chokehold, which was banned. Carotid holds can cause unconsciousness in 15-20 seconds when applied to both sides of the neck. He was released from the carotid hold (which was only tight on one side) without losing consciousness after about 15 seconds. This hold is used every day across the country. It saves a lot of police and suspects from injury during resists to arrests.
He died of a heart attack, and every little piece of stress happening to him contributed to that. That’s why the carotid hold was listed as a contributing factor to his death.
It’s kind of hard to convict someone of killing a person by way of heart attack. Breitbart was 43 too, and had his while walking down the street. There is no way to take such a possiblity into account in this situation.
There are other officers under charges right now over deaths during arrest resistance, so it does happen. The Grand Juries in these case spent weeks listening to testimony and perusing many pages of evidence. I’m not going to buck them because of a video and a few slanted news articles. The video didn’t look bad to me. A guy in normal health would have been fine after much more punishment than that.
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