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Is Obamacare Destroying the Democratic Party?
New York Times ^ | December 2, 2014 | Thomas B. Edsall

Posted on 12/03/2014 11:15:03 PM PST by grundle

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To: Cowboy Bob
.......three weeks after their devastating losses in the Senate, House, gubernatorial and state legislative elections, Sen Schumer said Obama and the Demonrat party suffered defeat in large part because of the strategic decision to press for enactment of Obamacare soon after Obama won the presidency.......

STROLL DOWN MEMORY LANE As far back as 2008, at the presidential debate in Nashville, Democrat candidate Obama advanced his signature healthcare plan---ultimately enacted, by an historic straight Democrat party-line vote, into the "Affordable Care Act"

QUOTING 2008 OBAMA: "No. 1, let me just repeat, if you’ve got a health care plan that you like, you can keep it. All I’m going to do is help you to lower the premiums on it. You’ll still have choice of doctor.” Repeated over and over ---- with the promise that every American family would be saving $2500.00 on healthcare costs.

Significantly, Obamba NEVER corrected lock-stepping Democrats, all reading from the same Democrat talking points, all of them repeating the same Democrat promises---over and over again.

Dems stupidly left a paper trail a mile long and 50-staes wide.

SEN. HARRY REID (D-Nev.): “In fact, one of our core principles is that if you like the health care you have, you can keep it.” (Sen. Reid, Congressional Record, S.8642, 8/3/09)

SEN. RICHARD DURBIN: “We believe — and we stand by this — if you like your current health insurance plan, you will be able to keep it, plain and simple, straightforward.” (Sen. Durbin, Congressional Record, S.6401, 6/10/09)

SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER (D-NY): “If you like your insurance, you keep it.” (U.S. Senate, Finance Committee, Bill Mark-Up, 9/29/09)

SEN. PATTY MURRAY (D-Wash.): “Again, if you like what you have, you will be able to keep it. Let me say this again: If you like what you have, when our legislation is passed and signed by the President, you will be able to keep it.” (Sen. Murray, Congressional Record, S.6400, 6/10/09)

SEN. MAX BAUCUS (D-Mont.): “That is why one of the central promises of health care reform has been and is: If you like what you have, you can keep it. That is critically important. If a person has a plan, and he or she likes it, he or she can keep it.” (Sen. Baucus, Congressional Record, S.7676, 9/29/10)

SEN. TOM HARKIN (D-Iowa): “One of the things we put in the health care bill when we designed it was the protection for consumers to keep the plan they have if they like it; thus, the term ‘grandfathered plans.’ If you have a plan you like — existing policies — you can keep them. … we said, if you like a plan, you get to keep it, and you can grandfather it in.” (Sen. Harkin, Congressional Record, S.7675-6, 9/29/10)

THEN-REP. TAMMY BALDWIN (D-Wis.): “Under the bill, if you like the insurance you have now, you may keep it and it will improve.” (Rep. Baldwin, Press Release, 3/18/10)

SEN. MARK BEGICH (D-Alaska): “If you got a doctor now, you got a medical professional you want, you get to keep that. If you have an insurance program or a health care policy you want of ideas, make sure you keep it. That you can keep who you want.” (Sen. Begich, Townhall Event, 7/27/09)

SEN. MICHAEL BENNET (D-Colo.): “We should begin with a basic principle: if you have coverage and you like it, you can keep it. If you have your doctor, and you like him or her, you should be able to keep them as well. We will not take that choice away from you.” (Sen. Bennet, Press Release, 6/11/09)

SEN. BARBARA BOXER (D-Calif.): “So we Democrats want people to be able to keep the health care they have. And the answer to that is choice of plans. And in the exchange, we’re going to have lots of different plans, and people will be able to keep the health care coverage they need and they want.” (Sen. Boxer, Press Release, 2/8/11)

SEN. SHERROD BROWN (D-Ohio): “Our Democrat bill says if you have health insurance and you like it, you can keep it…”(Sen. Brown, Congressional Record, S.12612, 12/7/09)

SEN. BEN CARDIN (D-Md.): “For the people of Maryland, this bill will provide a rational way in which they can maintain their existing coverage…” (Sen. Cardin, Congressional Record, S.13798, 12/23/09)

SEN. BOB CASEY (D-Pa.): “I also believe this Democrat legislation and the bill we are going to send to President Obama this fall will also have secure choices. If you like what you have, you like the plan you have, you can keep it. It is not going to change.” (Sen. Casey, Congressional Record, S.8070, 7/24/09)

SEN. KAY HAGAN (D-N.C.): ‘People who have insurance they’re happy with can keep it’ “We need to support the private insurance industry so that people who have insurance they’re happy with can keep it while also providing a backstop option for people without access to affordable coverage.” (“Republicans Vent As Other Compromise Plans Get Aired,” National Journal’s Congress Daily, 6/18/09)

SEN. MARY LANDRIEU (D-La.): “If you like the insurance that you have, you’ll be able to keep it.” (MSNBC’s Hardball, 12/16/09)

SEN. PAT LEAHY (D-Vt.): “[I]f you like the insurance you now have, keep the insurance you have.” (CNN’s “Newsroom,” 10/22/09)

SEN. BOB MENENDEZ (D-N.J.): “If you like what you have, you get to keep it” “Menendez is a member of the Senate Finance Committee, which is expected to release a bill later this week. He stressed that consumers who are satisfied with their plans won’t have to change. ‘If you like what you have, you get to keep it,’ he said.” (“Health Care Plan Would Help N.J., Menendez Says,” The Record, 6/19/09)

SEN. JEFF MERKLEY (D-Oreg.): “[E]nsuring that those who like their insurance get to keep it” “The HELP Committee bill sets forward a historic Democrat plan that will, for the first time in American history, give every American access to affordable health coverage, reduce costs, and increase choice, while ensuring that those who like their insurance get to keep it.” (Sen. Merkley, Press Release, 7/15/09)

SEN. BARBARA MIKULSKI (D-Md.): “It means that if you like the insurance you have now, you can keep it.” (Sen. Mikulski, Press Release, 12/24/09)

SEN. JAY ROCKEFELLER (D-W.Va.): “I want people to know, the President’s promise that if you like the coverage you have today you can keep it is a pledge we intend to keep.” (U.S. Senate, Finance Committee, Hearing, 9/23/09)

SEN. JACK REED (D-R.I.): “If you like the insurance you have, you can choose to keep it.” (Sen. Reed, Town Hall Event, 6/25/09)

SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (I-Vt.): “‘If you have coverage you like, you can keep it,’ says Sen. Sanders.” (“Sick And Wrong,” Rolling Stone, 4/5/10)

SEN. JEANNE SHAHEEN (D-N.H.): ‘if you have health coverage that you like, you get to keep it’ “My understanding … is that … if you have health coverage that you like you can keep it. As I said, you may have missed my remarks at the beginning of the call, but one of the things I that I said as a requirement that I have for supporting a Democrat bill is that if you have health coverage that you like you should be able to keep that. …under every scenario that I’ve seen, if you have health coverage that you like, you get to keep it.” (Sen. Shaheen, “Health Care Questions From Across New Hampshire,” Accessed 11/13/13)

SEN. DEBBIE STABENOW (D-Mich.): “As someone who has a large number of large employers in my state, one of the things I appreciate about the Democrat chairman’s remark is — is the grandfathering provisions, the fact that the people in my state, 60 percent of whom have insurance, are going to be able to keep it. And Mr. Chairman, I appreciate that. That’s a strong commitment. It’s clear in the bill … I appreciate the strong commitment on your part and the president to make sure that if you have your insurance you can keep it. That’s the bottom line for me.” (U.S. Senate, Finance Committee, Bill Mark-Up, 9/24/09)

SEN. JON TESTER (D-Mont.): “‘If you like your coverage, you’ll be able to keep it,’ Tester said, adding that if Medicare changes, it will only become stronger”. (“Tester In Baker To Discuss Health Care,” The Fallon County Times, 11/20/09)

SEN. TOM UDALL (D-N.Mex.): “Some worried reform would alter their current coverage. It won’t. If you like your current plan, you can keep it.” (“What I Learned: About Health Care Reform This Summer, By Your Lawmakers In Congress,” Albuquerque Journal, 9/8/09)

SEN. SHELDON WHITEHOUSE (D-R.I.): “..it honors President Obama’s programs and the promise of all of the Presidential candidates that if you like the plan you have, you get to keep it. You are not forced out of anything.” (Sen. Whitehouse, Congressional Record, S.8668, 8/3/09)

Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) the 60th vote on Obamacare: "people who are happy with their current plan, wouldn't need to change it."
FRANKEN YOUTUBE SOUND BITE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCZmAYYNz8Ihttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCZmAYYNz8I

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LOCK-STEPPING PARTY LOYALTY NOT SEEN SINCE 1930-40's ERA EUROPE Obama And The Dems marched in lockstep. The persistent Dumbocrat drumbeat ---- in obeisance to Obama ---- kept ringing reassuringly in our ears: "If you like your plan, you can keep your plan."

Lock-stepping Dems high-stepped behind Obama---saluting smartly. You could almost hear Dems' heels clicking (/snix).

41 posted on 12/04/2014 4:20:21 AM PST by Liz
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As Kurt Schlichter opined ....."let's understand that our real goal is to destroy everything Obama stands for – his lies, elitism, the quasi-fascist dream of controlling every aspect of other people’s lives. This is the time to strike. Our enemies are on the run.....the military knows that you defeat the enemy in detail during a rout. Let's hunt them down. Let's finish off progressivism. And let's do it by not being stupid......."

I'll drink to that.

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Read more Schlichter here:

A Massive, Humiliating And Awesome Rejection Of The Liberals
Townhall.com ^ | November 10, 2014 | Kurt Schlichter / FR Posted by Kaslin

42 posted on 12/04/2014 4:22:19 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz

“Is Obamacare Destroying the Democratic Party?”..

No, it is destroying the entire nation, which includes the demodummies as well.


43 posted on 12/04/2014 4:22:40 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: Liz

“Is Obamacare Destroying the Democratic Party?”..

No, it is destroying the entire nation, which includes the demodummies as well.


44 posted on 12/04/2014 4:22:40 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: MtnClimber

“Is Obamacare Destroying the Democratic Party?”

If so expensive, but perhaps worth it - as long as we can stop taking the medicine after the disease is cured.


45 posted on 12/04/2014 5:12:34 AM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: DaveA37

Just had to make some Medicare/insurance decisions. Minor trauma.
My drug premium rate increase 100+%, deductible 100+%.beyond what I can afford.
Agent told me I was an ‘easy’ fix compared to people with private policies that are going to hit next year.
He said he has nothing to offer except sympathy.

If I stay healthy I’ll be financially ok. Serious illness, I’m relearning Spanish or Ebonics and getting it free.


46 posted on 12/04/2014 5:15:31 AM PST by Vinnie
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To: F15Eagle

The employer mandate and the SCOTUS possibly ruling that the subsidies are illegal will throw the entire system into chaos. It can’t possibly survive without major overhauls.


47 posted on 12/04/2014 5:51:56 AM PST by randita (Obama entrusted the transformation of the best healthcare system in the world to a scam artist.)
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To: grundle

When you transition from a Representative Republic to a Monarchy, you no longer need any Party.


48 posted on 12/04/2014 6:03:00 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: M-cubed

Well, either that, or come up with $10,000 out of pocket to bribe your way to the front of the line.


50 posted on 12/04/2014 6:49:55 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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I know! I know!

Too many!


51 posted on 12/04/2014 6:54:42 AM PST by Lee'sGhost ("Just look at the flowers, Lizzie. Just look at the flowers.")
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To: grundle

The Democrats are praying that either the Supreme Court or the GOP will give them cover.


52 posted on 12/04/2014 9:25:41 AM PST by Mike Darancette (AGW-e is the climate "Domino Theory")
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To: arthurus

That’s clear enough. But the question in my mind is how widespread will this charade become and how many RINOs will fall for it. Harry Reid seems to be playing along. “Come into my parlor said the spider to the fly.”


53 posted on 12/04/2014 11:01:20 AM PST by Bernard Marx
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how widespread will this charade become and how many RINOs will fall for it.

I fear what the gopes are "falling for" the promise of is a share in the rule. They think if they pacify or neutralize the conservative opposition they will be rewarded with sinecures and wealth. Historically that is not what happens but historically flim flam is successful over and over.

54 posted on 12/04/2014 8:29:09 PM PST by arthurus
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To: arthurus
They think if they pacify or neutralize the conservative opposition they will be rewarded with sinecures and wealth.

Yes, the Re-Elect Me Party appears to be at work on both sides of the aisle. I suspect Schumer may be driven by the impulse to save his own butt electorally from the Obama disaster as much as anything else.

55 posted on 12/04/2014 9:16:11 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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