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1 posted on 12/02/2014 1:36:11 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Some areas of dispute:

Common Core, Immigration, Medicaid Expansion, NSA Surveillance, Gay Marriage.

I guess one has to put a chart comparing their stance side by side to see which ones you agree with the most.


2 posted on 12/02/2014 1:38:40 PM PST by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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And that is just the beginning of the list..........


3 posted on 12/02/2014 1:39:03 PM PST by NEMDF
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[2016 Republicans disagree on NSA surveillance, gay marriage and Common Core]

It won’t take long for Conservatives to cull the herd.


4 posted on 12/02/2014 1:40:41 PM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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a political martini — will it be shaken or stirred?


5 posted on 12/02/2014 1:41:17 PM PST by txnativegop (I'm out of ideas about tag lines.)
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Always the reports on the GOP divide. Never a word of the discord in the Democratic Party. Well, we’ll see in a little over a year the Democratic Party civil war between the Obamas and Clintons Part II.


7 posted on 12/02/2014 1:45:36 PM PST by dowcaet
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Can we get a simpler breakdown?

What about the division between

1) those who want to "make government better" (like shifting the chairs on the Titanic), and

2) those who want to decrease by at least 80% the size of the $4,000,000,000,000 federal government (would = $800 billion) which only partially offsets the 1000% increase over the last 40 years. (Since 1970, the size of the federal government has increased 1000% ($350 billion to $4 trillion)).

8 posted on 12/02/2014 1:46:47 PM PST by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate in the forum of ideas over unjust law & government)
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never had one that showed the things that the Rinos do.


11 posted on 12/02/2014 1:51:56 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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The gist of this articles seems to be that the jockeying potential pres candidates are changing their stances, but I don’t see any sign that the Republican base is changing their stance on any of these issues. Just RINOs putting their fingers in the air to see which way the wind is blowing, as usual.


13 posted on 12/02/2014 2:01:34 PM PST by Boogieman
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The divide is between the Globalist vs. the Conservatives

The Globalist GOP are for Open Borders, Collecting Everyone’s Data, The Perpetual Stat Of Never Ending Wars, so called “free Trade” (really rigged trade where we pay tariffs and China does not), Climate Change Believes, Gay Marriage, Common Core(aka Dumb Them Down Further Core), etc....

The Conservatives GOP are for secure the Border, maintain the Bill of Rights, war when we are attacked, end the rigged trade agreements, don't believe carbon dioxide is a poison since it's good for tress and plants, believe marriage is between a man and a woman, don't believe in every answer is right common core, etc....

16 posted on 12/02/2014 2:07:57 PM PST by Enlightened1
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GOP backers of Common Core are like “moderate” Dims who supported Obamacare - the think they are supporting a “good concept” but are ignorant of what is actually in Common Core.

GOP conservatives (me included sometimes) allowed trust in the man in office during the GWBush administrations to have priority over the Constitutional priorities against abuse of power and concerns of excessive “security” over Liberty. The truly imperial presidency has been a good corrective lesson against that trust. It does not matter whose hands you put excessive power into, the error is the same no matter what.

Contending GOP positions on “gay marriage” should meet in the middle - majority support for (a) “it’s an issue for the states, not activist judges, (b) civil unions if adopted by voters, (c) federal law that grants partners in legal civil unions the same standing as far as federal law goes, with no implication by that on any state’s laws.

One side will say it smacks of “separate but equal”, and oppose it on the grounds that it wrongly “discriminates”. I would argue that the two conditions are not merely separate but different, different in just about any natural way of looking at them, and a “separate” social institution is what they are and legitimately warrant a separate law.

One side will say it smacks of “separate but equal”, and oppose them on the grounds that they should not be equal. But I would argue that by leaving the matter up to the states and their voters I am not presupposing to what degree they - marriage vs civil unions - must be equal, other than in general an identification of like joint interests, predominately financially, that “gay” couples want to secure similarly to married couples. Beyond that would and should be varied as determined by each individual state.

And, with a GOP majority that sticks to the position that it is in the states where this issue must rest, then securing the interest in that position should become a GOP agenda in all the states.

I think Conservatives erred in working so much against civil unions/partnerships and for DOMA (which essentially nullified any possible mutual respect for civil unions under federal law). The result was the battle switched to redefining marriage altogether - wrong on all counts. Now we have court cases with resulting legal argument language to support “gay” marriage that is ready made for supporting polygamy and worse.


18 posted on 12/02/2014 3:02:15 PM PST by Wuli
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