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More oil to travel on N.J. railroads
bergen record ^ | 11.24.14 | Scott Fallon

Posted on 11/29/2014 12:04:54 PM PST by Coleus

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To: ully2; Leaning Right; MUDDOG; no-to-illegals; SunkenCiv; All

It’s only oil, NOT. It is a slurry of chemicals to make it flow, thick tarry oil with lots of sand. It is highly abrasive and corrosive and called “dilbit” or dilute bitumen. It broke an Enbridge pipe at a tributary of the Kalamazoo River and has already cost over a $billion in cleanup since 2010, and is still not clean. On the other hand rail cars need to be of a special sort for maximum safety. The Lac Megantic rail car explosion was from ND Bakkan oil, probably high in dangerous hydrogen sulfide gas. Any oil transported through NJ should not be parked on a grade with faulty braking and no guards. Fortunately, most of the railroads and oil tanks are on level ground. Will NJ use off shore wind power?? We all want more power, what price are we willing to pay?? Here is a link for hundreds of photos of a huge pipeline explosion in Qingdao China last year that killed 55 people and was covered up there and in the US just prior to Biden’s visit.
https://www.google.com/search?q=qingdao+pipeline+explosion&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=fgSVUpfgN9SosATK44CABQ&ved=0CEkQsAQ&biw=1024&bih=652
Here are hundreds of photos of the Lac Megantic train explosion that killed 47 people last year.
https://www.google.com/search?q=megantic+oil+train+explosion&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=BBWVUoO1Mue_sQSTuYGACw&ved=0CCkQsAQ&biw=1024&bih=652
Suggest Google Kalamazoo River Oil Spill, Qingdao Pipeline Explosion, and Lac Megantic train disaster for more details on precise findings and potential safety fixes. Even if we wanted to go all renewables, it would take time, never be completely doable, and we must urge our legislators to demand appropriate safety fixes on oil, gas, and coal.


21 posted on 11/29/2014 3:20:54 PM PST by gleeaikin
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It is highly abrasive and corrosive and called “dilbit” or dilute bitumen.

So do you think the Keystone pipeline could safely transport it?

22 posted on 11/29/2014 3:24:59 PM PST by MUDDOG
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Suggest you follow the advice in my last line. More research needed. A lot depends on how well new double hulled pipelines are maintained which depends on how hard regulators are pushed to do so, or what payoffs are made to look away. The older they get, the less people will think about them and the more dangerous they will be. On the whole, I think it could be transported safely. The question is will it, especially over time.


23 posted on 11/29/2014 3:37:07 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: Coleus

My state has railroads? Who knew? I thought all that constituted avenues of mass movement were the Garden State parkway and The New Jersey Turnpike. Oh, and the PATH trains. Wow. Railroads. Don’t that be all! s/.


24 posted on 11/29/2014 3:38:54 PM PST by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away for the weekend and the kids are in charge.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

How about “Ho-Ho-Kus’’ and Hackensack’’?


25 posted on 11/29/2014 3:39:43 PM PST by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away for the weekend and the kids are in charge.)
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Something else that has come to my attention. Dilbit has been define as NOT oil, therefore Canada is not required to pay into the oil safety and remediation fund that all US oil producers are required to do. Secondly, a foreign power, Canada, has been given approval to exercise eminent domain over property owned by Americans. IS THIS RIGHT?

I heard it a week ago, I hope that by now the screams of American patriots has galvanized our representatives to quickly insert corrects to that outrage in any Keystone legislation. URGE ALL TO CONTACT THEIR CONGRESSCRITTERS.


26 posted on 11/29/2014 3:41:53 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin

Thanks for the heads up.


27 posted on 11/29/2014 3:54:42 PM PST by MUDDOG
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To: Coleus

That “dirty” oil is going to be refined and processed no matter what the enviro-nazis do.The only question is where and how it is transported. Pipeline is the safest and cheapest way. That pipeline will either come through the American midwest to the gulf coast, or to western Canada to ships headed to China. Make a decision


28 posted on 11/29/2014 4:57:51 PM PST by Figment
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To: gleeaikin

What is your point? There are risks in everything


29 posted on 11/29/2014 5:03:13 PM PST by Figment
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Crude from the Bakken region of North Dakota carries its own concerns because it is highly flammable.

Duh! You do know that it is OIL! Who writes this stuff?

30 posted on 11/29/2014 5:54:36 PM PST by Petrosius
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To: jttpwalsh; St_Thomas_Aquinas; MUDDOG

piss what away?

btw, many of these towns are named after indian tribes...


31 posted on 11/29/2014 6:31:17 PM PST by Coleus
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To: Coleus

Thanks !


32 posted on 11/30/2014 4:37:58 AM PST by jttpwalsh
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Did you read my comment 22? The point is that risk is reduced if the public stays interested and demands that safety and upgrades be maintained over time.


33 posted on 12/01/2014 9:35:33 PM PST by gleeaikin
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