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Who Has the Magic Plan to Stop the New Jersey Exodus?
Pajamas Media ^ | 11/29/2014 | ROD KACKLEY

Posted on 11/29/2014 10:16:01 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: Go Gordon

Some of those beach goers loafers leave not even a footprint in the sand. :)


41 posted on 11/29/2014 11:44:35 AM PST by RedMDer (I don't listen to Liars but when I do I know it's Barack Obama.)
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To: SeekAndFind
"Do you pay the same or more for that privilege?"

Gas prices in NJ always trend to amongst the lowest in the nation. They make up for it by levying draconian tolls anytime you want to drive anywhere.

42 posted on 11/29/2014 11:48:41 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Fresh Wind

35 cents / gallon less than NYS.
I’m sure there’s a lot of crossing over on the border.


43 posted on 11/29/2014 11:49:19 AM PST by nascarnation (Impeach, Convict, Deport)
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To: SeekAndFind

Please. Any LIBs/DIMs...please stay in your wonderful state. Every other state sucks. You would be unhappy elsewhere.


44 posted on 11/29/2014 11:57:30 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: CodeToad

They have the same stupid law in Oregon. I found that out a few years ago when I pulled into a gas station on my Harley and found it necessary to tell the attendant that I would break his arm if he scratched the paint on my tank. He decided to let me pump it myself. Bikers are now allowed to insert and remove the nozzle themselves. while the attendant carefully pumps the gas.


45 posted on 11/29/2014 12:15:33 PM PST by Gator113 ( Impeach. Remove from office. Arrest. Convict. Imprison for life.)
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To: Gator113

Moved here 3 years ago. But out asap. The liberals sit around and think up new laws everyday! Next year if passed no Dpt store will be able to open before 9pm on TG! It’s like all lawmakers need their name on a bill. The gun issue is ridiculous. I left the arsenal home for fear of jail in transport ( Was told to do so by fiends ).
As far as the gas pump issue yea it’s as cheap as other states but be sure to check you cap being on. Mine was left off and a rain storm hit $353.00 to clean injectors and fuel sys. Prop tax is $12,000 So yea I’ll pay the Bridge token to get out of the State when cash will allow!


46 posted on 11/29/2014 12:29:14 PM PST by DocJhn
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To: CodeToad
P.S. They also are not allowed by law to pump their own gas. Must have an attendant do it. How stupid is that?

Worked in most of the country for 40 years of automobile driving ('30s-'70s). Now we are at the opposite extreme, where full-service is completely unavailable in most areas. BTW, the full service gasoline in NJ is cheaper than the self-serve in its neighbors.
47 posted on 11/29/2014 12:47:19 PM PST by Dr. Sivana ("If you're litigating against nuns, you've probably done something wrong."-Ted Cruz)
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To: Dr. Thorne

Northwest and southern NJ are fairly picturesque in scenery. Toss out the area bordering NYC, Camden and Trenton and the state is not so bad. Being the high tax hellhole governed by ash holes is the clinker. That goes for Christy Creme too.


48 posted on 11/29/2014 1:07:55 PM PST by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: pallis

Governor Crisco thinks his loud obnoxious nature is what makes him so loveable as well as America’s next President.


49 posted on 11/29/2014 1:19:39 PM PST by elcid1970 ("I am a radicalized infidel.")
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To: miserare

Nah. Most of Brooklyn moved to Staten Island.


50 posted on 11/29/2014 1:20:17 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: DocJhn

“But out asap.”

I sure don’t blame you.


51 posted on 11/29/2014 1:26:20 PM PST by Gator113 ( Impeach. Remove from office. Arrest. Convict. Imprison for life.)
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To: Lazamataz

“The state is a cesspool of liberalism, political correctness, toxic waste, and oppressive gun laws.”

The GUN LAWS have a MUCH BIGGER EFFECT than local politicians (anywhere) have any clue. There is literally half of this country that simply will not move to a gun-grabbing state. Some, like my children, are well educated and could pay BOATLOADS of taxes (of all kinds), but they want to have something more powerful than a spatula to defend themselves when the bad guys kick in the doors.

Yes, people who earn big money will move to gun-grabbing states, but MANY OTHERS, the people that use their gun rights, simply will not. The converse simply does not exist. Liberals will still move to Texas (unfortunately), but they will CHOOSE to not own guns (initially). Bottom line is that we win.

Today, they don’t see that, but as companies see their best workers ‘requesting’ to work remote in gun-rights states, they WILL, slowly, catch on.


52 posted on 11/29/2014 1:43:58 PM PST by BobL (I'm so old, I can remember when most hate crimes were committed by whites - Thomas Sowell, 2014)
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To: tflabo

The part of Jersey that borders the Delaware River (Huntington County?) is very beautiful. The problem is always the industrial section that is nearest NY. Pretty ugly but I guess if ensures some employment.


53 posted on 11/29/2014 1:58:01 PM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard III: Loyalty Binds Me)
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To: Go Gordon

“Obviously you only give references for people in your circle that believe in 2nd amendment rights. “

Yeah, that makes it better. /s


54 posted on 11/29/2014 2:02:43 PM PST by CodeToad (Islam should be outlawed and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: CodeToad
yeah, my neighbor is a local cop and I put him down as a reference, before I realized that references would actually get a questionnaire in the mail that they had to fill out and get notarized (not kidding) so I went over and gave him a heads up. He told me that he recently purchased his old service sidearm from the city and they made him go through the same process. This is an active township police officer who carries a city provided gun every day; and yet he still had to provide references, fill out several forms, etc.

The process takes up to two months to complete, they told me. I'll be finding out.

I think they sandbagged me though. I wanted a shotgun for shooting trap and when I turned in the forms the old lady at the desk said "why, you didn't check the box for handguns! You won't be able to purchase one, you know. Don't you want to check that, just in case you decide to buy one?" She talked me into it and I'm worried that she put me on a different, tighter process which is more restrictive. We'll see.

55 posted on 11/29/2014 2:45:03 PM PST by pepsi_junkie (Who is John Galt?)
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To: pepsi_junkie

I lived and worked in NJ, for 31 years. I had to send an email to the State Senator in my district, about the slow response (89 days) for a “Permit to Purchase a Handgun”. The detective in charge of this was an A$$. He was anti-gun, all the way. I would go for three permits, at a time. He called me and wanted to know could I afford three handguns in 90 days. I messed with him, I purchased three and one time.

He must of heard from the Senator’s office, my next permits were processed in 30 days.

When I knew that I was going to retire, moved to PA. Got my carry permit without a hitch. I’m now in Florida for the final hitch.


56 posted on 11/29/2014 3:42:27 PM PST by Capt_Hank (btu's...kcal's...to kJ's, but my activation energy is still high.)
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To: Tanniker Smith

They’re talking about state sales tax. Municipal or county tax added on top of that is another matter.


57 posted on 11/29/2014 3:46:04 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Tanniker Smith
Huh? It's actually cheaper than NYC, which if 8.875%, and (unless they've changed it in the past few years) it doesn't apply to clothing in NJ.

It's also cheaper then what I pay here in Texas (8.25% total), but my guess is they are only comparing state rates, and not including city/county add-ons. TX itself is only 6.25%.
58 posted on 11/29/2014 4:07:47 PM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: SeekAndFind

Let the conservative move out of NJ, and build a wall to keep the libs out of PA. I live in PA, and it’s bad enough that we’re blue from Philly, but the libs from NY, and NJ move to the Pocono’s and turn the state even more blue. :-(


59 posted on 11/29/2014 4:47:45 PM PST by EvilCapitalist (It's better to die free than live as a slave)
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To: Capt_Hank

My family is a long time Jersey family, we have been there since before the Revolutionary War. I’m one of 6 kids, only one of my sisters is left in NJ.

We left there in 2004. It was the best thing we ever did. Now in NE PA but working in Phillipsburg, NJ could never go back. It’s a shame because there are many good folks in the Garden State. Still fill up the tank in Pburg though!

I like to say that my home in PA, sitting on it’s 3.5 acres would cost 4 times what I paid for it 10 years ago and the taxes would be $1000.00/month.—if it were in NJ. We sold our house in Tuckerton, a 1100 sq ft ranch on a 100 x 100 foot lot for $25,ooo more than we paid for our PA home, 1800 sq ft plus a 2 car detached on a nice quiet street, big yard and half the taxes.

The last time I bought a handgun in NJ, it took me 5 months to get the purchase permit and cost $48.00. Moved over the border and the got my PA CCR in 29 minutes. 29 minutes and I can shoot in my back yard, no one cares.

Probably the only thing I really miss about Jersey and the shore is the boating opportunities. Here we have a lake and there are no horsepower restrictions but it’s only a lake. I grew up in Belmar, we had the Shark River Marina and the Atlantic Ocean right there. That was nice and even as kids we knew it was a special place.


60 posted on 11/29/2014 6:45:33 PM PST by fatboy (This protestant will have no part in the ecumenical movement)
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