Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Who Has the Magic Plan to Stop the New Jersey Exodus?
Pajamas Media ^ | 11/29/2014 | ROD KACKLEY

Posted on 11/29/2014 10:16:01 AM PST by SeekAndFind

New Jersey’s openly gay state assemblyman, who was called “numbnuts” [1] in 2012 by Gov. Chris Christie (R), thinks he can do what Christie has never been able to do, numb or not: get New Jerseyans to stay in New Jersey.

Assemblyman Reed Gusciora’s (D) solution is astoundingly simple. He wants to offer state home and business owners the opportunity to slash their property taxes by 25 percent.

The New Jersey Legislature would then be tasked with figuring out how to make up the difference through budget cuts.

The best Christie has been able to offer is a cap on future property tax increases.

Gusciora calls his idea Proposition New Jersey [2].

This isn’t the first time Gusciora has tried to get this legislation approved by his colleagues in the state Senate and Assembly. But now it might be more important than ever to get it done. A new study shows New Jersey could lose half of its residents who are fed up with shouldering one of the worst tax burdens in the nation.

The New Jersey Turnpike could soon be packed with residents who want to see the New Jersey border sign in their rearview mirrors.

A Monmouth University/Asbury Park Press study —coming a couple of weeks after a Tax Foundation study showed the Garden State’s business tax rate to be the worst in the nation — demonstrated the state’s property taxes are inciting half of the state’s residents to make plans to get out of New Jersey.

However, property taxes are not the only problem faced by those with Garden State license plates on their vehicles. New Jersey’s sales tax is one of the highest in the nation, at 7 percent, behind only California’s 7.95 percent sales tax.

The kicker is that this is not the first time New Jersey residents have told Monmouth University they want to move out permanently.

The study showed the continuation of a seven-year tend of residents planning an exodus from New Jersey.

“Very little has happened over the past few years to change Garden State residents’ desire or ability to remain in the state,” said Patrick Murray, director of the Monmouth University Polling Institute.

Fifty percent of New Jersey residents who responded to the Monmouth University survey released Nov. 10 said they would like to move out of the state at some point compared to 45 percent who said they would like to remain in the Garden State for the rest of their lives.

Of course a frog wants to grow wings so he won’t whomp his butt every time he jumps, but how likely is that to happen?

When asked to assess the probability they actually would move, regardless of whether they want to, 26 percent of all residents said it is very likely and 32 percent said it is somewhat likely they would leave the state.

It is the middle class for whom exit visas might be most imminent.

Only 31 percent of New Jerseyans who make more than $100,000 a year said they are very likely to leave compared to 25 percent of those in the $50,000 to $100,000 a year salary range who are packing their bags.

Among those who are likely to leave the state, the survey showed 50 percent said they would do so before they retire and 40 percent plan to move after they retire.

“The state’s high cost of living is the driving factor, and the chief culprit among these costs is New Jersey’s property tax burden,” said Murray.

Among those who say they are at least somewhat likely to move out of the state, over half (54 percent) cite costs or taxes as their primary motive. This includes 24 percent who blame property taxes as the main reason behind a move.

New Jersey officials —who, let’s be honest, are sometimes noteworthy for their arrogance —can’t take a “don’t let the door hit you where the Lord split you” attitude.

“This (exodus) would leave behind a depleted tax base coupled with a population in need of greater support. If these indications come to fruition, the affordability anxieties that are driving people out of the state now will only get worse,” said Murray.

Of course, it is never all about the economy. Other quality of life issues were mentioned, though much less frequently.

This listed included 6 percent who complained about New Jersey’s weather, 3 percent who were unhappy with the environment, 2 percent fed up with congestion, 2 percent who cited poor government, 2 percent who blamed their dissatisfaction on crime, 2 percent who said New Jersey was a bad place to raise a family, and 1 percent who cited the schools. Others said they just want a change of scenery (12 percent) or want to be closer to their families (4 percent).

But how much can any governor or legislature do?

Christie signed legislation in June 2014 that might not have lowered property taxes, but it did put a cap on future increases.

The legislation was also designed to continue to provide municipalities with the tools they need to keep property taxes down by placing an interest arbitration cap on police and fire contracts.

“Today we are once again delivering meaningful and substantive reform to curb property taxes for all New Jerseyans,” said Christie.

“This reform has already showed that it works to protect taxpaying families, who faced year after year of skyrocketing property taxes before we came into office and brought historic reforms and the lowest level of property tax increases in over two decades.”

Under the bipartisan reforms, including Cap 2.0 and the arbitration cap, property tax growth was slowed to its lowest level in two decades, with statewide increases of 1.4 percent and 1.7 percent in 2012 and 2013, respectively.

The Monmouth/Asbury Park Press survey is not the only evidence of the New Jersey tax burden.

The Tax Foundation’s 2015 State Business Tax Climate Index released Oct. 28 showed New Jersey business tax climate to be the worst in the nation.

“The states in the bottom ten suffer from the same afflictions: complex, non-neutral taxes with comparatively high rates,” wrote the study’s authors, Scott Drenkard and Joseph Henchman.

“ New Jersey, for example, suffers from some of the highest property tax burdens in the country, is one of just two states to levy both an inheritance and an estate tax, and maintains some of the worst structured individual income taxes in the country,” Drenkard and Henchman wrote.

However, one reader of NJ.Com [3] who commented on the Monmouth/Asbury Park Press study pointed out that money isn’t everything.

“Devil’s Advocate” plans to say in New Jersey.

“It’s expensive, but I like it here. I’d probably die of boredom anywhere else.”



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: christie; exodus; newjersey; nj; njturnpike; numbnuts; propertytax; propertytaxes; salestax; taxes; tolls
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-62 next last
To: logic101.net

Look for New Jerseystan and Californistan to start shedding EVs.


21 posted on 11/29/2014 10:56:16 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: goldstategop
I couldn’t afford $15,000 a year property taxes and no one could.

$15,000 property taxes is not typical, it would only be in affluent areas, not everywhere. Still upper middle class, mind you, but not statewide.

However even the more working class blue collar areas taxes will be in the range of $6,000 to $9,000 for a single family home. Then stack on another 7% for everything you buy and the state income tax and it really puts a bite into the working man's funds.

It really is outrageous and entirely due to bad government. We also have historically had the nation's highest auto insurance costs, thanks to the stupid "no fault" laws and surcharges for uninsured driver funds. Plus we have to pay a fee to go to the beach. This place is unreal.

22 posted on 11/29/2014 10:57:23 AM PST by pepsi_junkie (Who is John Galt?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

I think the taxes to live in New York are about the same, however both are ridiculously over the top.

If you live in NJ you have to go through a lawyer to sell or buy a house as well.


23 posted on 11/29/2014 10:59:52 AM PST by Beowulf9
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: pepsi_junkie

I can see why people want get out.

NJ makes Canada look like like Club Med vacation resort.


24 posted on 11/29/2014 11:00:15 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: logic101.net
Liberals are incapable of learning from their mistakes because they believe that they are too smart to make mistakes.

Yes. When things go wrong, they are simply victims. Victims of a rigged system, of nefarious forces from the banks or "corporate America". So when they move they think "finally got away from those terrible bad actors, now here is a place we can make it work!" And they pass the new laws to ruin the economy of their new state and the cycle starts fresh.

It's like a drunk driver who smashes into a dozen parked cars on his ride home and claims they all jumped out at him.

25 posted on 11/29/2014 11:03:11 AM PST by pepsi_junkie (Who is John Galt?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

“Only 31 percent of New Jerseyans who make more than $100,000 a year said they are very likely to leave compared to 25 percent of those in the $50,000 to $100,000 a year salary range who are packing their bags.”

As usual, the Democrats, the party of the little guy are destroying the middle class.


26 posted on 11/29/2014 11:05:09 AM PST by headstamp 2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Christie would be enough to make me consider leaving. Asinine gun laws would be the next thing. Radical Democrats who vote leftist kooks into office would be another. When I think about it, there isn’t anything that would compel me to live in New Jersey. The nanny socialism is oozing through air of New Jersey.


27 posted on 11/29/2014 11:08:37 AM PST by pallis
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Round up all the leftists and dump ‘em on Martha’s Vineyard.


28 posted on 11/29/2014 11:10:03 AM PST by uglybiker (nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-BATMAN!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: pepsi_junkie

Wow. I knew that there were such rules, but having to have references I didn’t know. That completely sucks.


29 posted on 11/29/2014 11:14:22 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam should be outlawed and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

I’m going to go with Walter Ulbricht and Erich Honecker ...


30 posted on 11/29/2014 11:14:34 AM PST by x
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Better would be to slash welfare benefits to the point where the underclass leaves (or get jobs). THAT would make NJ more attractive.


31 posted on 11/29/2014 11:20:45 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

I grew up in South Jersey and still have relatives there. That 15% hotel room tax is a killer. Get rid of it. The casinos are dieing.


32 posted on 11/29/2014 11:29:51 AM PST by 4yearlurker (Some people say that experts agree!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Tanniker Smith
It's actually cheaper than NYC, which if 8.875%, and (unless they've changed it in the past few years) it doesn't apply to clothing in NJ.

True, food (not restaurants) and clothing are exempt from the sales tax.

33 posted on 11/29/2014 11:37:57 AM PST by Go Gordon (Barack McGreevey Obama)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Anyone, no matter what his intelligence level, bnows that cutting taxes helps everyone, but you lose the money that is used to line your friends pockets. So the decision is keep your friends on the take and let the people go. So long as I have money ......


34 posted on 11/29/2014 11:38:04 AM PST by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: miserare
New Jersey is where Brooklynites go to die.

I thought they went to Florida where there's no death tax. Is NJ like too?

35 posted on 11/29/2014 11:40:22 AM PST by nascarnation (Impeach, Convict, Deport)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: pepsi_junkie
Plus we have to pay a fee to go to the beach.

FYI - Wildwood beaches are free.

36 posted on 11/29/2014 11:40:40 AM PST by Go Gordon (Barack McGreevey Obama)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]


We need your help to keep the lights on.
FR is funded solely by contributions made by
liberty loving people who enjoy and use it.

Every donation counts no matter how big or small.
If you can donate $5, $10, $20, $100 or more,
it would be greatly appreciated.


Support Free Republic
We're going to need a big push to
wrap this up. Let's git 'er done.

37 posted on 11/29/2014 11:40:55 AM PST by RedMDer (I don't listen to Liars but when I do I know it's Barack Obama.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: pepsi_junkie
What if you don't do to the beach? Do you still have to pay the fee?

For what it's worth, in Maryland the DemonRATS are now taxing the rain that falls on the roof of a house, parking lots, driveways and the walkways of everyone's property. What's strange is that no one has taken to the streets over this outrage. It's one of the reasons that Maryland will have a Republican governor next year.

But still, the clueless, stupid people of Maryland sent back the same old Democrat delegates to the state House and Senate -- so nothing will get repealed.

38 posted on 11/29/2014 11:41:51 AM PST by StormEye
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: CodeToad
I knew that there were such rules, but having to have references I didn’t know. That completely sucks.

Obviously you only give references for people in your circle that believe in 2nd amendment rights.

39 posted on 11/29/2014 11:43:08 AM PST by Go Gordon (Barack McGreevey Obama)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Remarkably, the gas tax in the PRNJ is one of the lowest in the nation.

That should help the people trying to escape.


40 posted on 11/29/2014 11:44:32 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-62 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson