Posted on 11/26/2014 7:02:36 AM PST by shortstop
no camera can ever function to depict reality
the camera will likely just introduce more controversy over what is actually being shown
” This would also
provide two police witnesses to each
encounter.”
Nope. No credability. Innocent or guilty, the assumption would be they are circling the wagons around their own. Problem is,that assumption is correct.
There was a time when a cop’s word was gold. Now? Not so much. And the shame is cops are the ones responsible for that.
Well said.
Maybe so but you’d still have two witnesses, credible or not. And better numbers if bullets start flying.
Changes nothing. This is the sequel to Rodney King.
” You are setting a high bar indeed.
Hesitation can cost you your life. You
literally have seconds or fractions of
seconds to react. Have you ever been in a
life or death situation?”
I’ve been on both sides of a gun greeting. Waiting prevented a tragic event both times. And my only bar is that the fear needs to be reasonable. There are a lot of shootings, like the Dorner hunt, that aren’t reasonable and didn’t get punished.
Whatever cops want, people will only put up with so many mistakes before returning fire, figuratively and literally. That is the plain blunt truth.
Well, video of the actual shooting would never be shown, but events leading up to it would be.
The problem then is interpretation, and no matter how definitive the footage is, there will be something that the perps supporters will use. Or they’ll dismiss it entirely. Do you actually believe the likes of Sharpton, Nancy Grace or their cohorts care about credibility?
They’ll just switch their narrative to some other absurdity.
Once law enforcement (the rule of law being respected) is null and void which the likes of Holder, Obama, are doing a role in crumpling that every day and the Sharptons alike; who use these incidences for profit; the country will truly be gone. Law enforcement is the only barrier to keeping any society maintained and safe. Remember, before opening mouth, those who trash all police officers, you are helping to make a narrative that ALL cops are bad..as... why do we need cops anyway, they carry guns.
The blacks involved in the riots do not certainly want to respect authority. Many who are protesting are anti Second Amendment, so they see a cause that they can pounce on. Be wise out there and know what you say will come back in a possible way you will not like on this situation. These protesters are truly ignorant if they deny accepting reality that this officer had the right to defend himself or they don’t care in the first place which goes back into an agenda.
Holder and Obama are anti police. So, in the beginning it was all about manipulating and removing power from the local police. Why, so the feds can control the authority over the people. You have a mindset of those who want more government control (Obama supporters and his party’s agenda) and those who want limited government control.
The police know what they’re up against and it puts them in more danger than ever on all fronts, support your local law enforcement men and women because we can see by whats going on in ferguson that they are our front line if this ever comes to your town
Reasonable is a subjective judgment. In the case of law enforcement, such judgments must be made within seconds or fractions thereof. We have internal police investigations and the courts to hold them accountable.
You continue to generalize about a "lot of shootings that aren't reasonable and didn't get punished." How do you define "a lot"? How widespread is this and what percentage of total police shootings fit your categorization? In sum, what are you basing your assertions on?
Hyperbolic, for sure. We have our share of cop haters even here on FR, but it is a bit much to say that everyone hates Darren Wilson, or any other policeman.
But I agree with his basic premise.
His life, as he knew it, is over.
Because he was a cop and he defended himself.
NOPE.
It is because PC lies were mouthed and saluted for 2 generations by many otherwise God fearing Americans.
The Brown case moved back 50 years but with all the same evidence video and otherwise could not POSSIBLY have happened as it has today. St. Skittles as well.
When I heard $harpton — or some other race-baiter — mention the body camera thing recently, I immediately got the the distinct feeling that we have another crony deal coming. Someone needs to follow the money, and it will lead to some friend of the administration who is manufacturing or about to manufacture body cameras.
Interestingly, there was recently a vote in the Baltimore City Council regarding providing all policemen with body cameras. I am willing to bet that the same crony is looking to benefit in that deal, as well.
” We have internal
police investigations and the courts to
hold them accountable.”
Hahaha. What a joke. Internal investigation is an oxymoron. Those same entities gave the shooters in the Dorner hunt a complete pass. In what world were their actions reasonable?
I’m using my phone, so I can’t type out the ones I know of right now. I’ll try and get back to you on them.
But the truth remains the same. The public will accept only so much. You might notice that people are getting angry.
Obama and Holder declarations from the first day of the death of the young Black killed by white cop were directed to incite the racial riots. Upon their conscience, or lack of it, rest the main responsibility for the Ferguson riots.
The people who are in the streets of Ferguson are angry. They also ignore the facts and rely on myth and lies to form their opinion.
Estimates on the number of people killed by the police annually range from 400 to 1,000. 27 police officers were killed in 2013 in the line of duty.
The US homicide rate, which has declined substantially since 1992 from a rate per 100,000 persons of 9.8 to 4.8 in 2010, is still among the highest in the industrialized world. There were 14,748 homicides in the United States in 2010, including non-negligent manslaughter. In 14% of all murders, the victim and the offender were strangers.
Do we really have a major problem with police shooting innocent people, especially minorities? I don't think so. Do we have a problem with violent crime? Yes, compared to most of the developed world. Who is responsible? Certainly not the police.
I agree that body cams will help some of the problem faced by good cops wrongfully accused of crimes against citizens. It may help get rid of truly bad cops.
Stupid people blame police officers for obeying laws citizens don’t like. Like forfeiture laws are being abused and end up stealing from innocent citizens to fund police activities. These citizens then stupidly blame police officers for stealing from them rather than changing the laws that are flawed and being exploited by crooked politicans.
I knew the left would end up exploiting the public’s knowledge of the few incidents of bad cops against all cops. It’s what they do. They are lawless. That is why I said the unity of cops has to break when there is truly a bad one among them or truly unprofessional or extreme practices are being adopted by the profession. They need to weed out the bad and stupid and give the left no ground to stand on for their hate and lies.
I hope the left gets unseated quickly - before they end up killing a bunch of innocent police officers and citizens with total fabrications of race hate like the Brown and Martin cases.
Cameras are getting better and cheaper all the time. There’s no excuse for police not to have them. Like it or not, it’s an idea whose time has come.
Quit policing black communities
...better yet, have black only cops in black communities...no chance of political manipulation if only blacks are killing other blacks...
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