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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
He wants honest race discussions. Good! He must be familiar with these Bureau of Justice Statistics and FBI data. And I recall a recent case of a black officer shooting a white teen.. I'm sure Holder will balance things. Yes sir. Finally some honesty.. wot? Holder is one of the ones stirring up racial strife? Oh.

We'll have to provide the honesty and there's tons of it in the federal government's own statistics. I am certainly aware that only a small number of both races are responsible for the strife -- including progressive ideologues.

Whites are more likely to die while being arrested.

Arrest-Related Deaths, 2003-2009 - Statistical Tables

"From 2003 through 2009, a total of 4,813 deaths were reported to the Bureau of Justice Statistics’ (BJS) Arrest-Related Deaths (ARD) program."

Of these, about 6 in 10 deaths (2,931) were classified as homicide by law enforcement personnel, and 4 in 10 (1,882) were attributed to other manners of death.

Table 1 Number of reported arrest-related deaths, by manner of death, 2003-2009

Manner of death 2003-2009 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009
All manners 4,813 627 673 689 721 745 629 729
Homicide —by law enforcement 2,931 376 375 377 447 455 404 497
by other persons 27 3 4 4 2 7 3 4
Suicide 541 60 84 82 67 78 76 94
Intoxication 525 83 83 90 76 89 54 50
Accidental injury 272 53 41 47 39 35 28 29
Natural causes 244 26 46 32 34 42 33 31
Unknown 273 26 40 57 56 39 31 24
Note: Due to variation in reporting, caution should be used in comparing counts from year to year. See Methodology for information on missing data by state for each year. Counts may differ from previous publication due to additional information.

Table 5 Number of reported arrest-related deaths, by manner of death and demographic characteristics, 2003-2009

Demographic
characteristics
All manners Homicide Suicide Intoxication Accident Natural causes Unknown
Total 4,813 2,958 541 525 272 244 273
Sex
Male 4,594 2,851 517 490 259 218 259
Female 218 107 24 35 13 26 13
Unknown 1 0 0 0 0 0 1
Race/Hispanic origin
White, non-Hispanic 2,026 1,233 327 178 95 110 83
Black, non-Hispanic 1,529 937 80 217 111 85 99
Hispanic 949 599 110 109 55 29 47
Other* 150 107 12 17 4 4 6
Unknown 159 82 12 4 7 16 38
Age
17 or younger 127 99 6 5 13 0 4
18-24 909 685 80 53 54 10 27
25-34 1,391 893 140 177 65 41 75
35-44 1,238 658 159 190 78 66 87
45-54 752 390 105 84 45 75 53
55 or older 317 188 44 11 12 52 10
Unknown 79 45 7 5 5 0 17
*Includes American Indians, Alaska Natives, Asians, Native Hawaiians, other Pacific Islanders, and persons of two or more races.

To me this shows that it is not a racial thing. It happens to all races. These figures however do not show those thought "murdered" by police. I have not yet located data for recent years. Why can't I find data for recent years? I do not know.. maybe the Dept of Just Us and Race-Grievance Industry don't want it known that whites are the most likely to die being arrested.

And for those who rightfully point out that whites out number blacks by at least 6-to-1 I ask to ponder these numbers

RE: The ARD program data that I posted above (first table), it is true that blacks represent about 12% of the national population and that suggests that the figures "prove" discrimination; to wit, there are way too many blacks compared to white majority.

Good point. The same thing ought to apply to the following homicide and other crime data it seems to me.

Expanded Homicide Data
Table 6 data for multiple years.

FBI Homicides Statistics

Year of
Stats
Race of
Victims

Total
White
Offenders
Black
Offenders
Unknown
& other
2012
White
3,128
2,614
431
83
Black
2,648
193
2,412
43
2011
White
3,172
2,630
448
94
Black
2,695
193
2,447
55
2010
White
3,327
2,777
447
103
Black
2,720
218
2,459
43
2009
White
3,518
2,963
454
101
Black
2,867
209
2,604
54
2008
White
3,643
3,036
504
103
Black
3,024
230
2,722
72
2007
White
3,587
2,918
566
103
Black
3,221
245
2,905
71
2006
White
3,709
3,026
573
110
Black
3,303
208
3,034
61
2005
White
3,785
3,150
516
119
Black
3,289
230
2,984
75
2004
White
3,727
3,123
522
85
Black
3,067
228
2,784
55
1995
White
4,954
4,124
699
131
Black
4,764
281
4,422
61

I did not find data for the years 1996 through 2003

www.fbi.gov About Us CJIS UCR Crime in the U.S. Here's the links to most of the FBI tables I referenced above.

Here's 2012

Here's 2011

Here's 2010

Here's 2009

Here's 2008

Here's 2007

Here's 2006

Here's 2005

It is long past the time when facts should be made public to expose the lies and misrepresentations of the Obama-Holder demagogues and the race-grievance industry.The Obama-Holder demagogues, the race-grievance industry, and most employees of the MSM have made this a racial issue. So let's see..

So adding up the blacks killed by whites (Col 1) and whites killed by blacks(col 2). Surprise.

col 1 Col 2
193 431
193 448
218 447
209 454
230 504
245 566
208 573
230 516
228 522
281 699
2235 5160

If nothing else this IMO proves that no one in the government, the MSM, et al. gives a whit about white lives except their own otherwise they'd be talking about these numbers.

32 posted on 11/25/2014 2:23:29 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
He wants honest race discussions. Good!

He wants a lecture, not a discussion.

33 posted on 11/25/2014 2:23:59 PM PST by dfwgator
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