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Clues to Chief Justice John Roberts' thinking on new ObamaCare case
triblive.com ^ | Nov. 22, 2014 | Richard L. Hasen

Posted on 11/23/2014 10:12:56 AM PST by PROCON

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To: CatOwner

It will get even better than that.

Wait until people have to return part of the ‘subsidy’ (which is really a subsidy to the insurance industry, not themselves) if their income goes up. (But they don’t get supplemental subsidy if their income goes down ... in fact if it goes down too low they may have to pay back all the subsidy because technically they were not entitled to it in the first place)

Remember, the subsidies are based on estimated future income, not actual already earned income. For many people, especially those who buy insurance individually ... the self employed, people on commission, people who have sporadic work on a contract basis) this is hard to estimate accurately.


21 posted on 11/23/2014 10:31:03 AM PST by Lorianne (fed pork, bailouts, gone taxmoney)
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To: PROCON

Whatever Obama’s thugs had on Roberts then, they have it on him now. He has already sold us out, so why change now?


22 posted on 11/23/2014 10:31:23 AM PST by pallis
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation; basil
The IRS hasn't released the forms yet for calculating your Obamacare penalty.

They did however this week release regulations for what a "hardship" would be to qualify for an exemption.

If you live in a state that did not expand Medicaid, one of the hardships is income less that 138% of the poverty level. That comes out to around $18,000 for a single person.

23 posted on 11/23/2014 10:31:49 AM PST by MUDDOG
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To: PROCON
Will Chief Justice Roberts redeem himself?

When was the last time liberals needed to concern themselves with whether Ginsberg or Sotomayer or Kagan would redeem themselves? Liberal supreme court jutices are hard-core ideologues, and Democrats know better than to appease the opposition by trying to find "moderate" justices who can be swayed. Republicans apparently have yet to learn that lesson.
24 posted on 11/23/2014 10:33:59 AM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Polyxene

In order to know how the enemy thinks and operates, you have to enter the snake den. Working in Hollywood, you get more than an idea when you sit in a studio developmental meeting than meeting at the local Starbucks. You can’t make your point across if you’re not facing your enemies..but be subtle or they’ll out you.


25 posted on 11/23/2014 10:34:26 AM PST by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
It doesn't sound like it to me. In fact it sounds like it is added to your taxable gross income amount:

ObamaCare’s individual mandate requires that most Americans obtain health insurance by 2014 or pay a tax penalty. The individual mandate went into effect January 1st, 2014. The penalty will be applied to your year-end federal modified adjusted gross income for each month you don’t have health insurance or an exemption. Source

26 posted on 11/23/2014 10:36:43 AM PST by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: pallis

John Roberts is an ‘owned man’ ... and he was placed there to do the bidding of someone who pulled George Bush’s strings way before the obamanation arrived for implementation, albeit the evil was being fabricated/formulated even before Daschle was ousted. Which should tell us something very important, if we had been paying attention to the verbal slips by men such as Tom Harkin and Richard Gephardt ... fedzilla is planning and has been formulating the way for terminating your free access to your own retirement funds and accounts.


27 posted on 11/23/2014 10:39:03 AM PST by MHGinTN
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To: Aria
Why wouldn’t they threaten his kids again?

Not saying they wouldn't. Makes you wonder what else they got...

28 posted on 11/23/2014 10:39:58 AM PST by IncPen (None of this would be happening if John Boehner were alive...)
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To: PROCON

No one ever mentions that the federal subsidies for expanded Medicaid only have two years left before the subsidies expire.

As the law is written, the immigrants are excluded from the subsidies and so are unlikely to be anxious to enroll. On top of that, the illegals who do not pay taxes cannot receive a tax credit for the subsidy. This is a big reason for Obama’s executive action on immigration, to complicate the overturning of the subsidies.


29 posted on 11/23/2014 10:41:53 AM PST by Eva
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To: basil
Well if you don't have insurance, then expect to be paying even more this upcoming tax year:

ObamaCare’s individual mandate requires that most Americans obtain health insurance by 2014 or pay a tax penalty. The individual mandate went into effect January 1st, 2014. The penalty will be applied to your year-end federal modified adjusted gross income for each month you don’t have health insurance or an exemption. Source

30 posted on 11/23/2014 10:43:29 AM PST by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: IncPen

conspiracy theories are for the shallow


31 posted on 11/23/2014 10:44:41 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: MHGinTN

I think Piggly Wiggly has a big sale on tin foil. You might want to stock up.


32 posted on 11/23/2014 10:45:15 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

The Federal courts are packed w arsonists


33 posted on 11/23/2014 10:45:32 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: IncPen

Nah, he just a liberal judge, just like the “Wise Latina.”


34 posted on 11/23/2014 10:47:00 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

That would be the sneaky way to get you to not see it.


35 posted on 11/23/2014 10:48:14 AM PST by mylife
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To: IncPen

They know about his illegal adoptions and his gay past.


36 posted on 11/23/2014 10:49:32 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: PROCON
Roberts = Judas
37 posted on 11/23/2014 10:50:14 AM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: GOPJ

LOL!! Funny but sad!


38 posted on 11/23/2014 10:52:30 AM PST by mylife
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To: PROCON

This is what FR has become....38 comments and not a damned one of them quoted the article or even references a single point made in the article. Only drive by snark and negativity. Sad state of affairs. Oh for 38, literally.....


39 posted on 11/23/2014 10:53:45 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

No need, I just wriggle my nose.


40 posted on 11/23/2014 10:54:11 AM PST by MHGinTN
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