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The Science is Settled?
americanthinker.com ^ | 11/23/2014 | Viv Forbes

Posted on 11/23/2014 7:41:41 AM PST by rktman

Governments are running huge deficits, but still spend billions on “climate research” especially trying to model the effect of the atmosphere and its trace of carbon dioxide on surface temperature. Benefits are hard to find. It may have improved weather forecasts by a day or so, but official long-term predictions have not improved in the last fifty years. This is because carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is not the main driver of weather or climate

“What is referred to reverently as “climate research” is mainly just grubby advocacy supporting the political war on carbon. Why are we still funding scientists who believe that “the science is settled”? If they believe that they know the answers, what are they are doing with their research funds?”

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Love the poster. So, if the science is settled, why would there be a need to continue pumping billions of dollars in to more(on) research? How about we fix the non-problem instead. Guess john gruber's right. There's a lot of stupid folks walking loose on the street. Has one of them even asked for an explanation of past glaciation and subsequent warming cycles where humans didn't even exist? Crickets...........
1 posted on 11/23/2014 7:41:41 AM PST by rktman
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The science is ONLY settled if the meme is what the Democrats want. Period.


2 posted on 11/23/2014 7:48:07 AM PST by originalbuckeye (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; moderation in principle is always a vice. Paine)
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To: rktman

the science is settled

3 posted on 11/23/2014 7:49:22 AM PST by JPG (The GOPe will always find a way to surrender)
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It’s turtles all the way down.


4 posted on 11/23/2014 7:52:50 AM PST by MUDDOG
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To: rktman

When you funnel a bunch of cash into a liberal cause, it becomes easier for liberals to redirect that money to their pet political projects.


5 posted on 11/23/2014 7:57:16 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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Plus it provides high paying jobs to liberals.


6 posted on 11/23/2014 7:57:37 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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“Climate Research” is a giant political sinkhole where government money can be laundered into the pockets of corrupt politicians. It’s made millionaires and multimillionaires out of thousands of them.


7 posted on 11/23/2014 8:13:49 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: JPG

Hence the seven day week.


8 posted on 11/23/2014 8:15:04 AM PST by cicero2k
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The so called scientist should be asked if they believe in it with absolute certainty. If if not how certain are they in percentage. Something that they have to deal in every day.

Nature is never precise (or nice and linear). And worst of all our feeble attempts to model it and then predict are only ball park. To be able to predict an event tomorrow is difficult. Being able to predict and event 10 years from now is absolutely impossible.

This fact is never mentioned.

Issues in modeling a large system like the world climate.

1. precision of the original data. And how precise does it have to be in order for the predicted results to be accurate.

2. Initial conditions. How are they chosen.

3. How precise do the computer models have to be. Nature is not easy to model and assumptions and approximations have to be made. How these assumptions affect the results.


9 posted on 11/23/2014 8:17:13 AM PST by dhs12345
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Liberals use that model when it comes to Obama, they put him where the earth is.


10 posted on 11/23/2014 8:27:41 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Not all Muslims are terrorists but all Muslims are potential terrorists.)
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The money is being spent to advance the politics, which has to do with controlling energy use and users, towards some non-existent Utopian end.

Climate scientists are paid up front with grants to prove or pretend global warming exists. There is no option for disproving anthropogenic global warming. That makes climate scientists, including the ones who work for private employers who get grants, welfare recipients, another leftist demographic that has to be kept on the plantation.

Practically every university science department, and every alternative energy scheme, every government agency related to science, is dependent upon global warming funds, and required to perpetrate the mass hysteria. It would be total chaos should the funding get turned off.


11 posted on 11/23/2014 8:32:27 AM PST by pallis
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The only question never asked of the scientists is the simplest one.

What constitutes the climate being fixed and what happens if our “theories” overcompensate and we go into a period of global cooling? I would go one step further and ask if perhaps the reason for this cooling trend is because we already fixed the problem and continuing on this path would make the earth go into a freeze, killing millions.

They have no answer. And that is why this is our best line of attack.


12 posted on 11/23/2014 8:45:38 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Ebola: Satan's End Game for Humanity.)
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To: JPG

Great post!


13 posted on 11/23/2014 8:51:40 AM PST by DemforBush (A Repo Man is always intense.)
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Science, by its very nature, is *never* settled.


14 posted on 11/23/2014 8:52:17 AM PST by DemforBush (A Repo Man is always intense.)
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To: rktman

Check out Joe Bastardi’s Saturdfay summary from this weekend over at Weathebell Analytics. He destroys the global warming cultists.


15 posted on 11/23/2014 9:20:14 AM PST by Minsc
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"If they believe that they know the answers [the science is settled™], what are they are doing with their research funds?"
16 posted on 11/23/2014 9:28:13 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Pointing out dereliction of duty is NOT fear mongering, especially in a panDEMic)
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The opening sentence answers the question. The gooberments need the research to scare the sheep to accept massive new taxes to fill gooberment bank vaults so tgey can keep on spending.


17 posted on 11/23/2014 9:29:25 AM PST by Organic Panic
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Goodbye family wage jobs. Of course, this is Oregon where many more will soon be too doped up to notice.

Jordan Cove LNG in Coos Bay could quickly become one of the largest greenhouse gas emitters in Oregon

18 posted on 11/23/2014 9:34:05 AM PST by CMB_polarization
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The science behind the global warming/climate change shakedown-money racket-power grab is settled. Nine out of ten scientists, their grant providers/financial providers/government officials, and entrenched business interests all agree that they can bilk stupid people of the world out of trillions of dollars through sheer manipulation of emotions about things that they really don't understand about macro atmospheric systems.
19 posted on 11/23/2014 9:37:05 AM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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The Science is Settled

That's where everybody has gone wrong.

They've been saying, "The Seance is Settled," all these years.

They have consulted the Ouija board, the Goracles, and the astrophantasmagorical emanations and confirmed that glowbull warming is real.

20 posted on 11/23/2014 10:07:43 AM PST by seowulf (Cogito cogito, ergo cogito sum. Cogito.---Ambrose Bierce)
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