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To: nathanbedford

all that verbal mush is worth about 2 short sentances to say every bit of it.


41 posted on 11/23/2014 10:08:12 AM PST by dalereed
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To: dalereed
Technology has giving you a mouse and God has giving you the hand eye coordination to move it. You could simply have used your mouse to click past the article or you could use your keyboard, as you did, to bitch about it.


46 posted on 11/23/2014 10:17:59 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: dalereed; nathanbedford
Dale, I think your characterization of this excellent piece as verbal mush exposes your lack of clarity of thought and inability to read something with more than a short excerpt and provide insightful analysis.

I agree with the analysis of where things stand and where they are likely to go from here. We are at a precipice. The Article 5 movement proscribes a remedy that would work to save the Republic, but it is a long-shot effort by a desperate people. I commend the effort, and agree that we should do all in our power to see those amendments come about, but we also need to be realistic and consider our options if that last, best hope fails.

We can move. I don't think we should have to give up our ancestral home to those who have stolen it from within, using votes harvested from without and a foreign philosophy, marxism, that has been hidden from view to deceive a proud and free people who would never have approved it willingly.

We can initiate a fight. States should not have to accept blatantly unconstitutional governance imposed by Washington simply because federal judges appointed by Washington have blessed the actions. The Constitution is fairly easy to understand, and it is one thing to accept interpretations that are a stretch, but another to accept rulings that nullify or clearly render the Constitutional meaningless. In such situations, it is within a State's power to say, "enough". You have lost your ability to command deference, the wizard behind the curtain is exposed as simply a lying tyrant who seeks only power and will say or do anything to maintain it. States can, and should, secede in such circumstances, where the other party to the Constitution has breached the contract by substantial and continuous disregard of its plain requirements. I dislike this option because I don't want war against fellow Americans, and want to do all I can to avoid it.

One other option is to borrow a page from Obama's Cloward Piven strategy. The left knows the trend is in its favor and wants to incrementally heat the pot until what was once America is boiled. Then they will spring their trap, their true nature will be revealed, and it will all be over. A permanent dictatorship of some form, call it fascist or marxist or a blend of the worst tyrannies suffered by mankind. We won't be able to write or speak out. Religion will be oppressed. Poverty will be imposed. There will be concentration camps. There will be armored personal carriers roving residential streets. Wealth will be confiscated. Utopia will have arrived.

But that day could not come all at once, there are too many people who would fight and the left is not yet strong enough. Guys like Boehner and McConnell serve a purpose for the left, by keeping the process moving forward at just the right speed. Every time the left moves too quickly, guys like Boehner get voted in to slow it down to just the right speed, while keeping the remnant population of Americans satisfied that the threat to their homeland has been thwarted. They are the Yin to Obama's Yang, both forces working together as one progressive party, always moving left.

This dynamic needs to be blown up if the left's march to absolutism is ever going to be stopped. How? By bringing on the crisis before the left is ready for it. Cloward Piven sought to destroy our society by overloading the system. That's what Obama's national debt is all about, to bring about the eventual collapse of our economy, and make people desperate, hungry and insecure in their homes. From that collapse will come the best opportunity of the left to create a new system from the ashes, one that has nothing to do with a stupid piece of paper signed by a bunch of white, slave owning men 225 years ago, but one created by the best and brightest of our age, the Grubers, Obamas and Warrens. A people diluted 30 percent by illegal aliens, composed 12 percent of blacks taught to hate the country, 5 percent Muslim and with a native white population whose children have been indoctrinated from age 3 in the religion of the federal government, and who care more about DWTS than the rule of law, will create a majority that will go along with whatever new framework comes along.

Collapse the system now, cause the economic structure that we know will eventually collapse to collapse right now, and we still have the numbers and the will to restore America from the ashes. As the ballerina said, never let a crisis go to waste, and from that crisis, if it comes about while people still remember Reagan, we can use the crisis to our advantage. We still have Texas and all those red areas you saw on recent maps of the election. From those strongholds, and a federal government that can no longer pay its workers and has lost its credibility, a movement of the states, especially the red states, to deny the will of the central government and restore freedom to the people can succeed.

We are attached to the notion that America pays its debts and that our economic system is strong enough to find a way to grow its way out of the current hole. I am attached to it. It would normally be treason to seek to bring down all that our property and livelihood depend on. But we are also betraying our country to let that attachment keep us from saving the country from a future led by marxists. Does anyone here really think that our debt will ever be repaid without default or inflating our way out of it? So the only thing we are doing is accelerating the process to occur at a time when we can handle it better.

How to bring about the collapse? Let the Democrats have their way on spending. Give Obama what he asks for. Print money like there's no tomorrow. Conservatives, no shutdowns, no fighting the White House for a few miserable cuts. Raise taxes on those who are dumb enough to still want to work. Boehner will be excited! Old people, quit contributing to the system. Retire, get your social security. Take your money out of the market and banks, put it into cars, land, gold, foreign currency, seeds, something you can have and hold onto after the collapse. Better buy some guns while you are at it so you can defend your things. Put your kids on welfare, take that medicare you were too proud to accept, move to a trailer, buy an RV and tour around America, and stop contributing to a doomed system. Start a solar company and take as many millions as you can get. In other words, white people, remove your wealth from the economy and join the welfare state and be crony capitalists, to the extent you can. Without the engine of the American work ethic pulling the cart, it will stall.

Do whatever it takes to get governments and the wealthy to quit financing the US government. China and Russia already want to find a new global currency. When we lose economic power, they will pounce. It could all come down rather quickly. When it does, there will be chaos. Power will devolve to localities and states away from Washington.

The left has been playing the long game for more than a century. They need another 20 or 30 years and the game will be over. We have a short window of time to find a way to deny them that victory. None of our options are easy, and success is uncertain, to say the least. Our nation has been debased, diluted, undone. There is a leaderless remnant of the Americans left within the land that was America. We need a plan, we need leaders, we need to start fighting back. Thanks, NB, for laying out the future so eloquently.

62 posted on 11/23/2014 1:23:39 PM PST by Defiant (How does a President reverse the actions of a dictator?)
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