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Cleveland police officer shoots 12-year-old boy carrying BB gun
Cleveland.com ^ | 11/22/2014 | Cory Shaffer | Northeast Ohio Media Group

Posted on 11/22/2014 9:53:01 PM PST by Forgotten Amendments

A rookie Cleveland police officer shot a 12-year-old boy outside a city recreation center late Saturday afternoon after the boy pulled a BB gun from his waistband, police said.

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Another "waistband" mistake? Or justified?
1 posted on 11/22/2014 9:53:01 PM PST by Forgotten Amendments
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To: Forgotten Amendments

Did the officer go home safely?
That is all that matters.


2 posted on 11/22/2014 10:05:19 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Forgotten Amendments

I have some airguns and BB guns.

I can envision b3ing shot by a cop who mistakes it for a real firearm.

Then again, I could put his eye out.


3 posted on 11/22/2014 10:09:13 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Forgotten Amendments

Let me guess- white cop, black boy. Kinda hope I’m wrong.


4 posted on 11/22/2014 10:10:06 PM PST by matthew fuller (Barak Hussein Obama (Benghazi Barry)- the first step into a thousand years of darkness.)
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To: Forgotten Amendments

Another “waistband” mistake? Or justified?

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Officers receive a call of a male with a gun. Officers arrive, see the gun on the table, suspect puts the gun in his waistband. The officer tells the suspect to put his hands in the air. The suspect pulls the gun out of his waistband instead. The officer shoots the suspect.


5 posted on 11/22/2014 10:14:58 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Forgotten Amendments

The entire country is on pins and needles...and angry...so are the police departments...which I can’t blame them for. So with this tension nationwide affecting so many there are going to be happenings nobody’s going to like that happen.

With the gangs etc. today using children as young as 7 and 8 ...I would not trust a 12 yr. old one bit...kids are forced to mature beyond their capability to understand yet foolish parents put them in adult like rolls just the same.

Besides...we’re all about getting guns now, and everybody knows it......so some 12 yr. old listening to the news or what ever may very well think he needs one too...

I don’t care to know the circumstances in this.... with the country as it is this is going to happen now...and the media is always looking for a story they can run with that would have political meaning.


6 posted on 11/22/2014 10:17:28 PM PST by caww
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To: Forgotten Amendments

It depends on the gun.

Some bb guns are made to look like actual real glocks or whatever. Can’t tell beforehand b/c they are not made with any indicator they are bb guns.

And why would a kid’s first instinct be to pull out a gun he had in his pants? I was a kid and I’d never have thought that was the right thing to do if a cop was coming over to me.


7 posted on 11/22/2014 10:17:47 PM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Repeal The 17th

So you can tell the difference in a split second, remembering that your life depends on it? That’s quite a superpower.


8 posted on 11/22/2014 10:21:21 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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Let me guess- white cop, black boy. Kinda hope I’m wrong.

I think you're right. The article states, "As a handful of community activists shouted obscenities...". That sounds a log like what holderites do.

9 posted on 11/22/2014 10:47:36 PM PST by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It is better to run away and/or take cover than to reserve the likelihood of eventually murdering a little boy. But go ahead. Continue the current policies ordered by the most influential constituents controlling local politics.


10 posted on 11/22/2014 10:49:06 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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So you’ve never been in anything like that situation, huh? “Run away or take cover” you say? Wow. Reminds me of those people who tell rape victims to pee themselves, claim a venereal disease or tell the rapist they’re in menses.


11 posted on 11/22/2014 10:52:07 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: Forgotten Amendments

Cops might say it’s justified, but really, this was a 12-year-old child with a toy gun. Is it justified shooting a 12-year-old? What if he were 8, or 6, or…? Cops are too trigger happy nowadays. Dangerous being a cop? That’s what they signed up for, and they need to stop being a-holes.


12 posted on 11/22/2014 10:52:55 PM PST by roadcat
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"But go ahead. Continue the current policies ordered by the most influential constituents controlling local politics."

What the hell does that part of your post even mean? Can you explain it to us?

13 posted on 11/22/2014 10:56:18 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: roadcat

If it was just a kid with a toy, how come someone(s) called it in as a ‘man/male with a gun’. Surely parents or other adults would be able to see the difference...or not.. which is maybe why they called the cops.


14 posted on 11/22/2014 10:57:22 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Could it be a man-sized 12 year old? They’re out there. And on the other hand, there are diminutive fully-grown men (even midgets) that would kill you in a heartbeat.


15 posted on 11/22/2014 11:03:40 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: Forgotten Amendments

Probably ought to send up a few prayers that the little guy recovers, and hope the Cleveland Police Department has good liability insurance.


16 posted on 11/22/2014 11:06:30 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“So you can tell the difference in a split second, remembering that your life depends on it? That’s quite a superpower.”

There are a lot of “armchair quarterbacks” on incidents like this. And football is just a game. I know I would probably not survive those “shoot-no shoot” drills that these police go through. And, let’s keep in mind WHERE this incident happened. What if this had gone wrong the other way?

i hate to write this, but three years from now, the gun would probably have been a real one.


17 posted on 11/22/2014 11:09:07 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: familyop

Leave law enforcement to the professionals. Monday morning quarterbacks always know what went wrong. But that’s because you have all the time in the world to get it right. Cops are given a matter of seconds, if that. It’s unfortunate the kid got shot. But it’s also world class stupid to pull anything looking like a gun on a cop.

CC


18 posted on 11/22/2014 11:09:37 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (Stercus Accidit)
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To: Secret Agent Man

There’s a photo of the gun at the site. It looks fairly real, even up close.


19 posted on 11/22/2014 11:11:02 PM PST by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"So you’ve never been in anything like that situation, huh? “Run away or take cover” you say? Wow. Reminds me of those people who tell rape victims to pee themselves, claim a venereal disease or tell the rapist they’re in menses."

I've seen pools of criminal pride in quite a few places.


20 posted on 11/22/2014 11:15:08 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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