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1 posted on 11/21/2014 10:16:44 PM PST by cakid1
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Obama: In his speech in Las Vegas today, Friday, Obama cited the immigration executive orders of Reagan in 1986 and Bush the father in 1990 as proof that he was in his legal right to issue immigration orders yesterday, Thursday.

Rachel Maddow, MSNBC: Maddow made the same claim yesterday, Thursday, after Obama's 8 P.M. TV speech concerning his executive order concerning the work permits for at last 5,000,000 illegals.

Yesterday, Thursday, I responded to Maddow's claim that Obama was simply following in the footsteps of Reagan and Bush. Obviously, I disagreed with her reasoning.

Here is what I wrote:

Rachel Maddow of MSNBC argues that Obama was simply doing what Reagan did in 1986 and Bush did in 1990 with their executive orders.

Internet and World Wide Web: Obviously they did not exist in 1986 and 1990 as we know them today.

1. What Maddow conveniently forgets to mention is this: The World Wide Web and sites like Facebook and Twitter did not exist back in Reagan's and Bush's time.

2. My point is this: If the millions of computers that exist today also existed way back then in 1986 and 1990, along with sites like Facebook and Twitter, Reagan and Bush may have also been highly criticized for their executive orders concerning illegal immigration.

3. Also,MSNBC did not exist back then because cable tv was still working to get off the ground as millions of homes still did not have access to cable tv as we know it today.

4. Since MSNBC did not exist way back then, it means that Maddow would not be working there back then. Sarcasm.

5. Also, since Reagan and Bush were Republicans, Maddow, if she was on tv at the time, would probably be severely criticizing both of them for their unconstitutional executive orders back in 1986 and 1990.

6. Maddow also conveniently forgets this very important point: A lot us were not very happy with the 1986 Reagan immigration bill, but we were told that this bill would solve all our immigration problems forever and we could all then happily walk into the sunset and live happily ever after, so we reluctantly went along with the bill. How wrong we were, as we all know.

7. My point is this: If we knew then what we know now about how wrong Reagan's bill was, and we had the World Wide Web to voice our complaints about the Reagan bill, maybe we could have forced Reagan not to sign the 1986 immigration bill and any executive order that followed.

8. Maddow conveniently forgot to talk about this also: The United States was a far different place back in 1986 than it is today in 2014, and people were more relaxed then.

9. For instance, if one could go back in time, the California of 1986 would be barely recognizable as compareed to the California of 2014, because illegal immigration, mostly from Latin America, has changed California forever.

10. Also,back in 1986, Southern states such as North Carolina, Virginia, Georgia, and Tennessee were not fighting an illegal immigrants invasion like they are today in 2014.

11. So, Maddow, it may appear to you that Obama is simply doing what Reagan did in 1986 and Bush did in 1990.

12. But in reality, the United States today---with the explosion of the Internet since 1986 and the suffocating illegal immigration from the southern border---is so different from Reagan's 1986 and Bush's 1990 that comparing Reagan's and Bush's immigration executive orders to Obama's executive order tonight is not only wrong, it is absurd, and because 1986 was so long ago in dog years, it is like comparing apples and oranges.

13. So Maddow, Obama's executive order must stand on its own merits. But the more we look at it, the more we realize that Obama is wrong, and his action goes against everything America holds dear. He is abusing the power of the Presidency. No doubt about it.

2 posted on 11/21/2014 10:36:56 PM PST by john mirse
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I think Simpson-Mazzoli originally claimed that there were only one million illegals who would be granted amnesty. In reality, it was 3 million. It was also one of Reagan’s regrets. In retrospect, he said he should have never signed the Act.


4 posted on 11/21/2014 10:44:01 PM PST by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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The GOPe’s response (or I should say lack of response) to Obama’s amnesty is despicable. The GOPe is only offering half-hearted verbal criticisms and pointless, futile lawsuit filings. These will do nothing to stop amnesty, Obamacare, or Obama.

Unless you are a big corporate executive campaign contributor, a K Street lobbyist, or a member of the Country Club set, the GOPe does not care about you.


5 posted on 11/21/2014 10:46:26 PM PST by Menthops (If you are reading this..... the GOPe hates you!)
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10 posted on 11/22/2014 6:12:32 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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