Posted on 11/21/2014 7:20:39 AM PST by Tailgunner Joe
"I think the Republicans will lose in court if they go to court. The president clearly has the discretion to tell the Justice Department who he wants to deport and who he wants to not deport, where he wants the emphasis to be, it's clearly within his rights. But more than that, if the Republican party can't control itself, if they, in fact, shut down the government because of this, they'll pay a heavy price. If, in fact, they say, we're not going to do anything about immigration, because the president took this action, they'll look like spoiled children. They'll pay a heavy price. If in fact they say, we're not going to meet the president halfway about anything because he did this, they'll pay a heavy price."
(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...
Exactly what price would that be?? We are, at this moment, literally as far away from an election as possible.
Shut the government down from December 11th to January 6th. Nobody will miss it.
Oh, they’ll try to hurt the people by shutting down the post office or something right around Christmas, but so be it.
Liberty or presents! Pick one!
If the last election is an indication of “the heavy price” the GOP pays for shutting down the guvmint, shut it down more often, I say.
Like they did after 2013, Eddie?
Piss off, corrupticrat.
What about a heavy price for assuming dictator powers?
LOL this time it will be only 0bama who shuts anything down.
Bills to fund the military [for example] pass the House and Senate then land on 0bama’s desk. If he vetos - it will be him shutting down the military. The House and Senate funded it.
The weight of all the lies is crushing 0bama. He has jumped the shark. He’s toast. Although I do think he’ll dig in a bury the dems even further than they are now... he’s toast.
Looks like the ‘rats are gonna circle the wagons around Obamnesty. Looks like amnesty is the hill they or we will die on.
No they won’t. Rendell is as big a liar as Obola is.
“But more than that, if the Republican party can’t control itself,”
In other words, if those that oppose us don’t stop opposing our consolidation of power into a single ruler, then they will be punished! Tyrants must always demonize their opposition and divide the population, then when they decide to “take action” the ignorant will applaud as those “standing in the way of Utopia” are loaded on trains.
Yes. Just like the heavy price they paid in the 2010 elections for the previous shutdown.
I have no confidence in the moderate wing of the Uniparty.
The GOP leadership IS Democrat.
Sorry, not an apt analogy - the proper response is “oh Governor Rendell, you mean like we did two weeks ago?”
You have that backwards Eddie. It is obama who should be paying the heavy price. WE WON! True Americans voted down amnesty in the mid terms. Take a look at the RED map.
I hope they do shut it down....shut down all the gov’t.
ALL OF IT! SS, Welfare, and all entitlements........
And how about the price paid in 2014 for the 2013 shutdown too?
Why can’t we have a spokesperson for the Republican Party like Ronald Reagan who is a straight shooter and calls his opposition on their lies.
Someone who doesn’t mind heading straight into battle and has no fear of exposing skeleton’s in their own closet.
Someone who speaks directly to the people and shows that they care rather than playing phony politics.
Someone who has so much ammunition against their opponent’s policies that they can point out how the Democrats were deceived by the illusion created by their leader.
Someone who can show that Hillary has the same values and mission in life as Obama and that she cannot be trusted.
Someone who can ask the public if they would trust their spouse that cheats on them and if not, how can they trust Bill Clinton as he is no better than Bill Cosby.
Someone who speaks with a voice of strength while having enough wit to zing their opposition with humor that pierces their arguments and shows that they are lies.
Someone who can point out the underlying motives of their opposition and show the patterns of behavior that proves their statements.
Someone who can think on their feet and not use a teleprompter to speak to the public.
Someone who has sound conservative policies along with the ability to be convincing with emotional arguments.
Who fills that position?
Call and melt the phone lines.
Don’t moan about it here—let your reps know—especially the Dems—how you feel about EO Amnesty.
We heard from the Usurper in Chief last night.
Today, they need to hear from us.
We will pay it again in 2016 when the Republican Nominee, either Romney or Bush, sabotages his campaign so he doesn’t actually have to be President.
yep, Fast Eddie indeed....the one who said Pennsylvania might vote Republican due to all the racists in Western PA.
What a genius this maroon is.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_One_of_the_United_States_Constitution
Section 1: Legislative power vested in Congress[edit]
All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.
Section 1 is a vesting clause, granting all the federal government’s legislative authority to Congress. Similar vesting clauses are found in Articles II and III, which grant “the executive power” to the President and “the judicial power” to the federal judiciary. In legal proceedings, the working definition of “herein” connotes specificity and exclusivity. The Vesting Clauses thus establishes the principle of separation of powers by specifically giving to each branch of the federal government only those powers it can exercise and no others.[1] This means that no branch may exercise powers that properly belong to another (e.g., since the legislative power is only vested in Congress, the executive and judiciary may not enact laws).[2]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_Two_of_the_United_States_Constitution
Section 1: President and Vice President[edit]
Clause 1: Executive Power[edit]
Obama signing legislation at the Resolute desk
The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his Office during the Term of four Years, and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same Term, be elected, as follows[1]
Clause one is a “vesting clause,” similar to other clauses in Articles One and Three, but it vests the power to execute the instructions of Congress, which has the exclusive power to make laws; “To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof.”
Found this at the NY Slimes (shocker!):
http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2014/01/29/presidential-power-vs-congressional-inertia/presidents-cannot-ignore-laws-as-written
Presidents Cannot Ignore Laws as Written
29JAN2014
As every grade-schooler knows, Congress has sole authority to make laws. The president has a corresponding duty to “take care that the laws be faithfully executed.” When one branch of government exceeds its authority, separation of powers is violated, and representative government breaks down.
Presidents have power to fill gaps or ambiguities in laws passed by Congress. They do not, however, have power to ignore laws as written. For example, when President Obama unilaterally raised the minimum wage for federal contractors’ employees, he directly contravened the Fair Labor Standards Act, which says that “every employer shall pay to each of his employees” a minimum wage of $7.25 per hour.
President Obama has shown a penchant for ignoring the plain language of our laws. He unilaterally rewrote the employer mandate and several other provisions of the Affordable Care Act, failing to faithfully execute a law which declares, unambiguously, that these provisions “shall” apply beginning Jan. 1, 2014. Similarly, in suspending deportation for a class of young people who entered this country illegally, the president defied the Immigration and Nationality Act, which states that any alien who is “inadmissible at the time of entry” into the country “shall” be removed.
The only strength gained by unilateral presidential lawmaking is raw speed: policies can be implemented more swiftly by unilateral presidential action than by congressional deliberation and debate. But the dangers are many, and should counsel any American — of whatever political persuasion — that such dispatch comes at a high constitutional cost.
When the president fails to execute a law as written, he not only erodes the separation of powers, he breeds disrespect for the rule of law and increases political polarization. The president’s own party — for example, the current Democrat-controlled Senate — will face intense pressure to elevate short-term, partisan victory over defending constitutional principles. If partisan preferences prevail, Congress will be unable, as an institution, to check presidential ambition and defend its lawmaking prerogative.
Once such precedent is established, damage to the constitutional architecture is permanent. The next president of a different party will face similar pressures and undo all the previous actions. He will initiate a new round of unilateral lawmaking, satisfying his own political base. The law will fluctuate back and forth, and our legislature will become little more than a rubber stamp for a single elected individual, which is not how representative government is supposed to work.
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