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Obama's deceitful claim illegals will 'pay their fair share'
American Thinker ^ | 11/21/2014 | Thomas Lifson

Posted on 11/21/2014 7:10:53 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Last night’s presidential address on decreeing that millions of illegal aliens can stay here in violation of the law contained a deep deceit, buried in words that were, on the surface, true. President Obama’s rhetoric left the impression that at last, illegal immigrants would “pay their fair share.” From the official transcript:

We expect that those who cut the line will not be unfairly rewarded. So we’re going to offer the following deal: If you’ve been in America for more than five years; if you have children who are American citizens or legal residents; if you register, pass a criminal background check, and you’re willing to pay your fair share of taxes -- you’ll be able to apply to stay in this country temporarily without fear of deportation. You can come out of the shadows and get right with the law. That’s what this deal is. (snip) (emphasis added)

…millions of people who live here without paying their taxes or playing by the rules while politicians use the issue to scare people and whip up votes at election time.

The problem with this rhetoric is that very few illegal immigrants make enough money to actually pay taxes. Instead, their “fair share” will amount to a substantial gift from American citizen and legal immigrant taxpayers who have played by the rules.

Avik Roy writes:

 …the vast majority of undocumented aliens don’t make enough in income to have a net income-tax liability. As I note in Forbes, a 2006 analysis by the Century Foundation, a progressive think tank, concludes that “we can be virtually certain that illegal immigrants earned less than $24,000 per year, on average, probably much less.” That amounts to around $29,000 in 2014 dollars, well below the threshold


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amnesty; illegals; illegalsspeech; obama; obamaillegalsspeech; obamalies
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1 posted on 11/21/2014 7:10:53 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Not only will they not pay income taxes, many are likely to get a check from the IRS, thanks to the Orwellian-named Earned Income Tax Credit, which send a gift from taxpayers to low income families.


2 posted on 11/21/2014 7:11:23 AM PST by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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Most of illegals Obama just gave “Amnesty” to will now receive the “Earned Income Credit” subsidy, amounting to THOUSANDS of dollars, each.

They will NOT be paying Taxes!

But YOU will...


3 posted on 11/21/2014 7:15:59 AM PST by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: SeekAndFind

Fair share is 0 for Obama’s trash.

Fair is nothing in their gibsmedat mentality


4 posted on 11/21/2014 7:18:24 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: tcrlaf

There was a picture last week,, of the new secretary of HhS saying the “ we “ must find a way to give Obamacare to the new immigrants.


5 posted on 11/21/2014 7:18:45 AM PST by Eva
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To: SeekAndFind

He wasn’t talking about money. He meant they would vote Rat.


6 posted on 11/21/2014 7:25:06 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Fair share” = FICA.

If you thought the enrollment numbers for obamacare are lower than expected wait till you see how few Illegals line up for these applications, which is being reported to not roll out till early next year.


7 posted on 11/21/2014 7:26:56 AM PST by moehoward
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” Not only will they not pay income taxes, many are likely to get a check from the IRS, thanks to the Orwellian-named Earned Income Tax Credit, “

We get NOTHING in taxes from these people!


8 posted on 11/21/2014 7:29:09 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (The only people in the world who fear Obama are American citizens.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Liars lie. That is what they do. Clown Prince nobama is the King of Liars...a chronic liar who doesn’t know truth from lie.


9 posted on 11/21/2014 7:31:33 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Their “fair share” will be nothing.


10 posted on 11/21/2014 7:32:58 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Good Muslims, like good Nazis or good liberals, are terrible human beings.)
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11 posted on 11/21/2014 7:36:10 AM PST by Iron Munro (Obama "I stand with the 2/3 who were too lazy, disinterested, stupid or dead to vote")
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OBAMA: “Although this summer, there was a brief spike in unaccompanied children being apprehended at our border, the number of such children is now actually lower than it’s been in nearly two years.”

THE FACTS: The numbers certainly surged this year, but it was more than a “brief spike.” The number of unaccompanied children apprehended at the border has been on the rise since the 2011 budget year. That year about 16,000 children were found crossing the border alone. In 2012, the Border Patrol reported more than 24,000 children, followed by more than 38,800 in 2013. In the most recent budget year, more than 68,361 children were apprehended.


12 posted on 11/21/2014 7:39:26 AM PST by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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I will be surprised if very many at all “come out of the shadows.” Most illegals I’ve been around have no intention of staying in America. They are just here to work and send money home. When they get some savings, they go back to Mexico and live on the cheap. If they run out of money, they come back and work.


13 posted on 11/21/2014 7:39:49 AM PST by IamConservative (If fighting fire with fire is a good idea, why do the pros use water?)
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RE: They are just here to work and send money home. When they get some savings, they go back to Mexico and live on the cheap. If they run out of money, they come back and work.

We used to have a program that catered to that need — THE BRACERO PROGRAM under Pres. Eisenhower. It worked well for a while until Cesar Chavez and his unions caused a huge stink about these workers undercutting union wages.


14 posted on 11/21/2014 7:43:06 AM PST by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: SeekAndFind

For leftists seeking a permanent captive voting majority, “their fair share” is a very large negative amount.


15 posted on 11/21/2014 7:43:15 AM PST by arthurus
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To: SeekAndFind
They will replay him through illegal voting.


16 posted on 11/21/2014 7:44:17 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam should be outlawed and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: SeekAndFind

people with no money RIGHT , Oh wait they can buy houses


17 posted on 11/21/2014 7:58:17 AM PST by molson209 (Blank)
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To: SeekAndFind; Liz; stephenjohnbanker

Most born in America/legal adult rats don’t pay their own way.

They get their pseudo work checks from governmental agencies or pseudo charities for doing nothing.


18 posted on 11/21/2014 7:58:56 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The Democrats, who run America are too old, too rich, and too very/very white elitist losers!.)
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I heard a state rep on the radio say that 100,000 illegal aliens have been identified and are costing the state $800,000,000.


19 posted on 11/21/2014 8:01:33 AM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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It's amazing how these amnesty pushers, when saying how illegal aliens will pay back taxes, they never say whether they'll be able to file for EITC and collect thousands per year for each year they've worked in the US illegally. Any with dependents and making less than about $20,000 would qualify for around $5,000 or more per year.
20 posted on 11/21/2014 8:05:41 AM PST by Will88
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