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Tribal head to speed North Dakota pipeline talks
Fuel Fix ^ | November 21, 2014 | Associated Press

Posted on 11/21/2014 5:26:48 AM PST by thackney

The new leader of North Dakota’s oil-rich Three Affiliated Tribes is pledging to speed negotiations on a proposed pipeline through tribal land that would curb the wasteful burning of natural gas in the state by more than 10 percent.

North Dakota’s booming oil production has led to an unmanageable increase in the state’s output of natural gas, which is a byproduct of oil production. Oneok Inc., the biggest operator of natural gas pipelines and processing plants in North Dakota, wants to build a 20-mile-long pipeline to capture natural gas from oil wells in Dunn County and move it to an existing pipeline network nearby. But the Three Affiliated Tribes has demanded environmental assurances and cash for permission for it to pass through land it recently acquired.

Tribal leaders and Oneok have been negotiating for about a year, according to Brad Borror, spokesman for the Tulsa, Oklahoma-based company.

Mark Fox, who was elected chairman of the Three Affiliated Tribes earlier this month, said he will get a deal done. Fox, the tribe’s former tax director, said he’s a “proven” negotiator.

(Excerpt) Read more at fuelfix.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: North Dakota
KEYWORDS: energy; flaring; naturalgas; pipeline
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1 posted on 11/21/2014 5:26:48 AM PST by thackney
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To: thackney

As long as they don’t call it the “Fighting Sioux” pipeline...the NCAA won’t shut it down.


2 posted on 11/21/2014 5:38:41 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: TurboZamboni

If Sioux come up with the name, it is okay.


3 posted on 11/21/2014 5:41:21 AM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: TurboZamboni
As long as they don’t call it the “Fighting Sioux” pipeline

No, these are the tribes whose butts the Sioux kicked for a thousand years or so. They were among the chief whiners about the 'Fighting Sioux' nickname for that very reason.

4 posted on 11/21/2014 5:47:07 AM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: Maine Mariner

Actually the people on the reservation had no problem with name it was jsut the leadership.. They never allowed the people on the reservation to take vote to see if they wanted UND to keep the name because they knew it would pass by a large margin.


5 posted on 11/21/2014 5:48:38 AM PST by scbison
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To: TurboZamboni

Sorry I see now that you are from Minnesota and probably know all about this.

Didn’t mean to lecture.

Go Fightin’ Gophers! (ha...sorry again...couldn’t resist!)


6 posted on 11/21/2014 5:48:53 AM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: Fightin Whitey
They were among the chief whiners about the 'Fighting Sioux' nickname for that very reason.

Not so. The biggest whiners were the tribal council at Ft. Yates, the furthest away Sioux tribe still in the State of North Dakota. They simply thought they could extract more freebies from UND in return for remaining quiet about the 'Fighting Sioux' name. The closest Sioux tribe, near Devil's Lake, was generally quite supportive. When the Ft. Yates tribal council was voted out of office for unsuccessful extortion attempt, everyone thought the controversy would be over. But that's when the NCAA took over.

The three affiliated tribes (Mandan, Arikara, Hidatsa) who are the topic of this article, are actually Sioux cousins who arrived in what is now North Dakota and followed an agricultural lifestyle centuries before the better-known nomadic Sioux pushed in from Minnesota and points south and east.

Both had their origins in the Ohio River Valley and possibly the James River area of Virginia before that.

So, while it is true that the three affiliated tribes have no love for the Sioux, they weren't active in opposing the 'Fighting Sioux' nickname.

7 posted on 11/21/2014 7:32:54 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: thackney
The new leader of North Dakota’s oil-rich Three Affiliated Tribes is pledging to speed negotiations on a proposed pipeline through tribal land that would curb the wasteful burning of natural gas in the state by more than 10 percent.

The Three Affiliated Tribes.

The Three Affiliated Tribes received approval from the Bureau of Indian Affairs and the Department of the Interior to take over a 469-acre piece of land near New Town in northwestern North Dakota, between Williston and Minot.

The Three Tribes raised $40million, the rest comes from issued bonds.

At the signing ceremony,...“We grew up poor. We were lucky if we had a pair of clean overalls,” Hall said. “But our parents made sure we went to school and got educated. They did the best they could for us. They didn’t know we’d have this oil and gas resource, but now we do. It’s our responsibility to manage it and we are.”

Three Affiliated Tribes officials are talking to other tribes about inter-tribe commerce agreements to distribute diesel from its refinery. Representatives from several tribes, including the Spokane Tribe of Indians, attended the event and are interested in distributing the diesel.

- See more at: http://www.prairiebizmag.com/event/article/id/14552/#sthash.18x4ZDtj.dpuf

The tribes plan to use 190 acres of the land to build a refinery that will take crude oil from the nearby Bakken region and produce up to 13,000 barrels a day of diesel fuel, gasoline and propane, the Bismarck Tribune reported.

The rest of the land will be used to raise buffalo.

Tex Hall, chairman of the Three Affiliated Tribes - Mandan, Hidatsa and Arikara - said the more than 1,000 wells in the Fort Berthold Indian Reservation produce in excess of 180,000 barrels of oil a day. Compared directly with state production, that puts them among the top 10 oil producers in the nation.

Read more: http://billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regional/montana/north-dakota-tribes-oil-output-rivals-u-s-states/article_75eb6dfa-50eb-5569-8b81-d8295e045d59.html#ixzz3JipX6Tf9

8 posted on 11/21/2014 8:45:38 AM PST by spokeshave (He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people,)
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To: Vigilanteman
Sorry, you are incorrect.

I grew up on Fort Berthold Indian Reservation and still have a business here.

The (just-defeated) tribal chairman (and long-serving President of the National Congress of American Indians) has shot his mouth off on every possible occasion about the racism of the Fighting Sioux nickname.

The reaction from the Standing Rock Reservation was mixed, with an expression of support very, very early on but the tribal council screwed things up. I don't believe that they actually ever took an official vote, on the council or throughout the tribal membership, perhaps partly because of the money issue, as you say.

The Spirit Water tribe did actually vote to support the nickname but it was late in the day, if I recall correctly, and they were never given much credence.

If you think the Three Affiliated Tribes simply "arrived" in western North Dakota ahead of the Sioux, maybe drawn there by the balmly weather, that is your privilege. Everybody was 'cousins' at one point but the loathing between these cousins was palpable when I was young.

from the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe website:

When the Middle Sioux moved onto the prairie they had contact with the semisedentary riverine tribes such as the Mandan, Hidatsa, and Arikara. Eventually the Yanktonai displaced these tribes and forced them upstream.

I have to admit I don't spend enough time on the street these days to know if relations are all better now.

9 posted on 11/21/2014 10:21:42 AM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: Fightin Whitey
If you actually have roots and business there, I'm of course willing to concede. My main sources are the eastern part of the state, far removed from Fort Berthold.

I'll just say that the Three Affiliated Tribes never struck me as particularly mouthy or militant, so I'd expect the just-defeated tribal chairman to be an exception.

As you probably know, the Three Affiliated Tribes were making a marginally good living at farming in the 1950s when they were displaced by the Garrison Dam and given inferior land higher up as compensation, one of those great government "deals" which never fully restored their agricultural self-sufficiency.

And, no, I don't think the Three Affiliated Tribes were drawn to North Dakota circa 1500 by the balmy weather. I grew up in North Dakota and know just how harsh the climate is.

They were pushed there by more aggressive tribes, especially their Sioux cousins who paid little attention to western North Dakota until they, in turn, were pushed west by even more aggressive tribes such as the Chippewa.

10 posted on 11/21/2014 10:55:00 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: TurboZamboni

Sioux Sue Sue......

Sue Fisher of consolidate gas and oil announced that her company has been sued by the Sioux over ......


11 posted on 11/21/2014 10:58:49 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: Vigilanteman
Appreciate your civility.

Re the Garrison Dam: New Town is my hometown. You probably know or can guess why there is a place called New Town?

No, the tribal members in the area didn't give a fig about the Sioux nickname, just as so many at Fort Yates and Fort Totten probably actually supported the name.

What mattered was the public faces of the tribes, the self-interested spokesmen, for instance:

MHA

12 posted on 11/21/2014 11:11:39 AM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: Fightin Whitey

What a nimrod! I hope that letter was what got him voted out of office.


13 posted on 11/21/2014 11:46:03 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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