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To: madprof98

Nothing has changed. They don’t have the manpower to process 5 million work permits. It’s highly doubtful that the average illegal can document 5 yrs residency. Most employers of illegals are not going to want to start paying matching SS, Med. and Unemp. taxes.
Simple Solution is to fine employers of illegals $10,000 per person and watch how fast they self-deport.


7 posted on 11/21/2014 4:57:57 AM PST by Outrance
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To: Outrance

I just checked USAJobs.com. There are no postings for additional people to handle the crush of millions of applications. I expect to see stories about long lines, with pictures to boot.


18 posted on 11/21/2014 5:15:36 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Mississippi!)
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To: Outrance
"It’s highly doubtful that the average illegal can document 5 yrs residency."

YOu are assuming that Obama will actually enforce that requirement.

19 posted on 11/21/2014 5:17:06 AM PST by circlecity
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To: Outrance

I’ve always said that we need to block wire transfers going into Mexico as well. At least make them spend their illegal money here


23 posted on 11/21/2014 5:22:52 AM PST by FunkyZero (... I've got a Grand Piano to prop up my mortal remains)
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To: Outrance
Simple Solution is to fine employers of illegals $10,000 per person and watch how fast they self-deport.

Exactly correct, you are. When my home was built most of the laborers were illegals. My contractor must employ them to be competitive. All the other contractors employ illegals. I would have been more than happy to pay 20% more for the cost of my home if built with legal labor.

Until it is economically prohibitive for a contractor, farmer, etc. to employ illegal labor, they will be employed and here illegally.

We need national ids which could be our social security card that is high tech and hard to forge. A data base on whom is a citizen or legal resident. Large fines for employing illegals. The problem will solve itself.

64 posted on 11/21/2014 6:45:23 AM PST by cpdiii (DECKHAND, ROUGHNECK, GEOLOGIST, PILOT, PHARMACIST, LIBERTARIAN The Constitution is worth dying for.)
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To: Outrance
I've already heard quite a few say many illegals are going to ignore this whole process altogether...as they are being told by "La Raza types" IT'S A TRAP!

Mainly because it's an "executive order" and as such can be nullified by whoever the next "executive" is. Those who are now simply working while "hiding in the shadows", should they sign up for this, will now be required to give personal information(including where they are hiding), not to mention biometric tagging...and once their whereabouts are known...could easily be subject of deportation under a new administration with a more stringent(rule of law)policy.

If you think about it...why bother with this process at all...they are already here, very little if anything is/has been/will be done to deport them, many are working under the table and sending monies back to family in Mexico/elsewhere, monies that will NOW go to the Gov. instead of their families through taxes/fees/penalties...

Maybe that explains why so few were out in front of CNN camera's last night celebrating this new "freedom"(nice try CNN), and it certainly doesn't help Obama's cause when he and his cronies(Gruber)have already been exposed as the liars/deceit artists that they've proven themselves to be on so many fronts...

VIVA INCOGNITO!

65 posted on 11/21/2014 6:53:10 AM PST by RckyRaCoCo (Shall Not Be Infringed)
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To: Outrance

PFL


67 posted on 11/21/2014 6:57:11 AM PST by Batman11 (Obama is not American.. he has no clue what it is to be American.)
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To: Outrance

Well you have a good point. If you actually listen to what Oblather said last night he is not really doing anything he was not already doing. He is not deporting anybody now. The main change is giving them all SS numbers and work permits. The Congress can just defund the few million dollars for printing and processing the paperwork. But you are right the govt is so slow and ponderous how long will it take them to even process this stuff? The other problem is that a lot of these people don’t want to come out of the shadows. They don’t want to pay taxes and FICA etc.


77 posted on 11/21/2014 8:08:36 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Outrance

The illegals themselves will not want to start filing tax returns, not to mention filing them for previous years.

The requirements and standards Obama outlined for obtaining work authorization and not being deported for 3 years are as stringent as those that used to be applied in immigration court to those who wanted to stay in the US permanently!


80 posted on 11/21/2014 11:00:04 AM PST by eddiespaghetti ((with the meatball eyes))
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To: Outrance
They don’t have the manpower to process 5 million work permits.

Do they have the manpower to enter all the EMPLOYERS of illegals and assess the fine?

Simple Solution is to fine employers of illegals $10,000 per person and watch how fast they self-deport.

82 posted on 11/21/2014 1:24:46 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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