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School Handout: 'The Government Gives Us Rights' "[G]ive your loyalty to the U.S. government."
Truth Revolt ^ | 11/20/14 | Trey Sanchez

Posted on 11/20/2014 8:38:54 AM PST by Nachum

A well-circulated school handout is teaching children that rights are given to citizens not by their Creator, but by their government.

The author of the handout, Phyllis Naegeli, writes educational (used loosely) materials for elementary school-aged children. Her lesson Being a Good Citizen, found on EdHelper.com, states the following:

When you are a citizen you have rights. Rights are special privileges the government gives you. In our country, you have free speech. You are also given the right to choose a religion.

Because the government gives us rights, we have the duty to be good citizens.

The writing, which dates back to at least 2009, caused much controversy then, so much so that Naegeli came to her own defense in a concerned forum group discussion that year. Here's what she said:

From what I have discovered an article I wrote for edhelper.com because [sic] quite a point of controversy on your forum the other day. I am being accused of spreading left-wing propaganda, being a Pelosi relative, and other such incorrect titles. I am a Christian and I own up to mistakes that I make. I made a mistake in these articles by saying the government gives us rights. The government is to protect the rights we are given by God. For that I apologize and ask for forgiveness. I am far from being left wing. I chose the incorrect words to try to simply describe what being a citizen is. I never intended for anyone to be offended by this or to spread some incorrect information to children. I home educated all of my children and have been very careful about what they were taught. I have taught them to be loyal citizens of our wonderful country.

Naegeli asked EdHelper.com to revise her writing to say

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: commoncore; communism; government; rights; school
Well, this explains a lot.
1 posted on 11/20/2014 8:38:54 AM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum
I want to know who this Phyllis person really is. One can find a fair bit of educational material referenced online that is attributed to this person, but a standard Google search did not bring up a bio.

People like this normally love tooting their own horn and showing off their credientials at every opportunity - why not "Phyllis"?

2 posted on 11/20/2014 8:47:51 AM PST by Mygirlsmom (Congrats to Gov. Walker on his Three-peat! Love my Gov!!!)
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To: Nachum

If what she says is true then how did someone so wholly ignorant of the basic structure of American government end up writing civics lessons for elementtry schools?


3 posted on 11/20/2014 8:51:40 AM PST by circlecity
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To: Nachum

It’s really hard to explain the real Source of rights without “inadvertently” teaching Christianity,

because without that worldview as a basis,
she’s right - your rights are only valid as long as the gov’t “grants” them to you.


4 posted on 11/20/2014 8:51:54 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Nachum
"We Pledge Allegiance To The Logo Of The 57 United States Of Obama....."


5 posted on 11/20/2014 8:54:20 AM PST by Iron Munro (DHS has the same headcount as the US Marine Corps with twice the budget)
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To: Nachum

All my life, I have pledged allegiance to the flag, and to the republic for which it stands. I have also pledged allegiance to the Constitution. I have never pledged allegiance to the government, because the government exists to serve the interests of the republic and fulfill the mandates of the Constitution, not the other way around.


6 posted on 11/20/2014 8:54:30 AM PST by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: circlecity

She is a liberal and therefore an expert in everything.


7 posted on 11/20/2014 8:56:32 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Good Muslims, like good Nazis or good liberals, are terrible human beings.)
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To: Nachum

“Government-granted rights” is an oxymoron.


8 posted on 11/20/2014 8:59:04 AM PST by henkster (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: Nachum
the future according to phyliss...




9 posted on 11/20/2014 9:02:55 AM PST by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: Mygirlsmom

From another thread
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3228744/posts?page=22#22

http://www.crosswalk.com/family/homeschool/anything-god-wants-is-best-1264034.html

From article
There are also other lessons written by Naegeli that can be found online. One is titled Our Living Constitution (http://www.opelousasjr.slp.k12.la.us/hls/4TH%206%20WKS%20EC/Our%20Living%20Constitution%20pt.%201.pdf) in which she writes, “Our Constitution is alive! That’s because it can be changed.”

Another is United States Citizenship (http://mrshodgesss.weebly.com/uploads/2/9/7/2/2972869/us_citizenship.pdf) where she states, “As a citizen, you give your loyalty to the U.S. government.”


10 posted on 11/20/2014 9:03:02 AM PST by Whenifhow
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To: Nachum
follow the link and read the rest of the story. Read how she asked it to be revised and the titles of some of her other writings.

Sorry charlie there is no way this was a mistake. How convenient that she doesn't "own" the writings she made so they can't be revised.

Looks like little jane fonda here got caught trying to spread communism and is now trying cover herself.

11 posted on 11/20/2014 9:05:18 AM PST by precisionshootist
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To: Nachum

We should be teaching young students to be good people, not good citizens. The latter follows the former, and does so by freeing people, not enslaving them.


12 posted on 11/20/2014 9:06:17 AM PST by pallis
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To: Nachum

Napoleonic Law by Fiat of the the Progressive Era...

ENJOY IT!


13 posted on 11/20/2014 9:53:52 AM PST by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: GraceG

The gubmint doesn’t give us a damn thing except continuous lies and stonewalling. Our rights are given to us by two things, GOD and the Constitution that say’s GOD.

End of Story!!!!!


14 posted on 11/20/2014 10:16:26 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: Nachum

Not only from God but, The rights of the people come from the same place that government comes from. An agreement among the people to setup a government and under what conditions and in what form. That agreement is called a constitution where all of those things are defined before that government was formed, subject to amendment of course.


15 posted on 11/20/2014 10:30:34 AM PST by amnestynone (A big government conservative is just a corporatist who is not paying enough taxes.)
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To: DaveA37

Unalienable rights don’t come from the Constitution. She also flubbed the part about State’s Rights. Governments don’t have rights, they have powers. Only people have rights.


16 posted on 11/20/2014 10:30:44 AM PST by Dalberg-Acton
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