Water, CO2 Converted Into Fuel Sources With New Machine

hngn.com ^ | Nov 19, 2014 01:48 PM EST | John Nassivera |

[Rembrandt]

Steam engines were modestly popular on American rivers a century or two in the past. Now? I don’t think so.

[DoughtyOne]

Yes, pretty slick if a simple way to split off the oxygen was found.

[Nifster]

has all the feel of a LENR realse

[stubernx98]

“It takes more energy to split H2O than it yields”

So much for the Hydrogen powered cars. Same for ethonal.

[mylife]

Ethanol suks azz.

[cpdiii]

Sunfire, which had to spend "seven figures" to design and build the rig, says the process is able to achieve an efficiency rate of 70 percent by using excess heat to create more steam, CNET reported.

It would be nice as to see how they quantify that 70% efficiency they claim.

The real world of thermodynamic just "AINT GONNA DO THAT."

[Boogieman]

It’s verily easily converted into CO2 though.

[Mastador1]

This is Hugh!

*why does it smell like BS?*

I don't know, carbonated water always made me burp, not fart.

[ckilmer]

Sunfire, which had to spend “seven figures” to design and build the rig, says the process is able to achieve an efficiency rate of 70 percent by using excess heat to create more steam, CNET reported.
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about 8 years ago there was an interesting story about John Kanzius who got salt water to burn. Kanzius’ concept is simple: expose salt water to 13.56 MHz radio waves and light a match. Hydrogen separates from the water mixture and burns for as long as it’s exposed to the frequency. (I think the significance of 13.56 is that it is the nuclear magnetic resonance nmr of oxygen.that plus the heat absorbed by the sodium —which in salt water — is a heat sink when bombarded by radio waves — caused the H2O molecules to break up and released the hydrogen for burning.)
http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/4271398
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhqldxU_cvA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNvLwDX2WW0
http://nick2.wordpress.com/2007/09/14/kanzius-and-penn-state-chemist-rostum-roy/

I don’t know if this is more efficient than electrolysis. maybe not but it does eliminate the problem of electrodes that wear out.

Kanzius has proposed that the flame is produced by radio waves “forcing together” the “normally separated” hydrogen and oxygen in the water, a process he calls “reunification.”[13] In water (H2O), hydrogen is covalently bonded to oxygen, and thus the process must “reunite” pairs of hydrogen atoms and pairs of oxygen atoms, releasing dihydrogen (H2) and dioxygen (O2).

Here’s an interesting physorg article that may provide some back up for kanzius’ contention.

http://www.physorg.com/news129471213.html

Researchers Observe Hydrogen-Bond Exchange

According to the article:
image of the H20 and D20 dimers. The H20 dimer appears to fluctuate in the image because they exchange hydrogen bonds 60 times faster than the D20 dimers. The rate difference implies that the interchange proceeds via quantum tunneling.

[clearcarbon]

Looks like another potential verification of abiotic process for the origin of some terrestrial hydrocarbon fuels.

[ckilmer]

here is a detailed discussion of kanzius work
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=1477.0

[ckilmer]

here is a detailed discussion of kanzius work
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=1477.0

according to the posters here who looked at Kanzius and rostum roy’s work....the best concentration level for salt in the water for Kanzius radio wave effect is the same as the best salt level for electrolys. Also what burned was not hydrogen but rather sodium in the NaCl.

[Manly Warrior]

First you take the equivalent energy of 70 bbls of oil, add water and carbon dioxide, flip this switch, and voila, in an hour out comes a bbl of oil!

Energy problems solved!

[thackney]

It would be expensive but cheaper than transporting jet fuel over the ocean.

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I do not see the basis for that conclusion. As a comparison, we average about 8¢ per gallon to move crude oil from Iraq to the US.

http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move_imc2_k_a.htm

http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move_land2_k_a.htm

[thackney]

We don’t lack in ways to make fuel. The challenge is to make it cheaper than the process we use today.

When a “new” technology is proposed, and they don’t discuss cost, don’t bet it is cheaper.

[thackney]

Do people think we have an unlimited water supply?

Used in this procress, yeah, we pretty much do have unlimited.

The amount of H2O converted to fuel, is reproduced when the fuel is burned. The water vapor is part of the exhaust. Eventually the water condenses in the atmosphere and falls as rain.

The Hydrogen isn't destroyed from the water, and it return to water as the process is completed.

[<1/1,000,000th%]

Good idea!

[MrB]

Because water (H2O) and carbon dioxide (CO2) cannot be fuel sources because they are

ALREADY “BURNED” (combined with oxygen).

[csmusaret]

First we have to develop solar powered windmills.