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Liberal University Destroys Anti-Fracking Talking Point
Townhall.com ^ | November 17, 2014 | Thomas Miller

Posted on 11/17/2014 10:04:13 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin

A couple of drops of Dawn Dishwashing liquid in a one gallon container is pretty close duplication of fracking fluid.


21 posted on 11/17/2014 10:48:10 AM PST by buffaloguy
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To: WayneS

No, the casing isn’t under pressure.

There is tubing inside the casing the fluid flows through and at the bottom of the tube there is a packer that keeps the fluid from coming back up the casing and only going through the perforations into the production zone.


22 posted on 11/17/2014 10:52:43 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: IMR 4350
The possibility that both the production and surface casing cement jobs are bad is so small it almost doesn’t exist.

Agreed. But when that problem did exist in Dimock, Pennsylvania, it was used to try and prevent hydraulic fracturing.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/16/science/study-points-to-well-leaks-not-fracking-for-water-contamination.html?_r=0

23 posted on 11/17/2014 10:57:03 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: thackney

Well, you never want your well casing to NOT be properly sealed, I know that.

I am admittedly not well versed on oil well drilling and development, or procedures for hydro-fracking oil wells.

I have been involved in hydro-fracking a couple of drinking water wells (no special fluids, just pressurized water to try to enlarge the rock fracture/well shaft interface area to boost well yield).

The pressures to which the well shafts weres subjected during those procedures were not a problem for the 100’ of casing & grout used on those wells, but I would assume the pressures used would be considerably higher for a deep oil well than what we used.


24 posted on 11/17/2014 11:01:15 AM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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25 posted on 11/17/2014 11:01:30 AM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: IMR 4350

Ah. Thank you. You may now disregard the contents of my last post.


26 posted on 11/17/2014 11:02:15 AM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: IMR 4350

That makes sense. They can target specific fracture zones and use the tubing/packing arrangement to isolate each zone.

That method has carried over to water wells in recent years and is replacing the crude methods I used years ago.


27 posted on 11/17/2014 11:06:53 AM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: WayneS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRphniHLHgo

Drinking Fracking Fluid


28 posted on 11/17/2014 11:18:08 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: DesertRhino
That's fine. For him.

However, one component of fracking fluid is ethylene glycol, a bio-accumulative toxin which I would not voluntarily consume in any quantity (although over my decades of working on cars and motorcycles I have involuntarily ingested some on more than one occasion).

My opinion of those who drink fracking fluid is the same as my opinion of those who drink sewage treatment plant effluent.

29 posted on 11/17/2014 11:27:03 AM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: DesertRhino

CleanStim® Hydraulic Fracturing Fluid System
http://www.halliburton.com/en-US/ps/stimulation/fracturing/cleanstim-hydraulic-fracturing-fluid-system.page

You don’t want to do this with all Frac fluids.


30 posted on 11/17/2014 11:28:00 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: WayneS

See link at post #30.

Not all frac fluids are the same.


31 posted on 11/17/2014 11:28:44 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: WayneS

With an oil well you have to drill X number of feet below the last fresh water zone and set your surface casing to isolate the fresh water during the drilling of the well.

If your last fresh water zone is lets say 1000’ you might have to drill 1300’-1500’, even more depending on regulations, and set your surface casing.

Your surface casing is set with several hundred feet of cement.

You then drill the well through the surface casing and then set a production casing.

With production casing you have several thousand feet of cement from the bottom of the hole up.

Your injection tubing is then inside the production casing.

If it ruptures they will know immediately and any fluid is inside the production casing, not surface casing.

If fluid is coming back up around the production casing because of bad cement, you will start getting pressure in your surface casing and you can shut her down.


32 posted on 11/17/2014 11:31:52 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: IMR 4350
at the bottom of the tube there is a packer...

Obama, Barney Frank?

33 posted on 11/17/2014 11:37:37 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

I think both are the “packee” not the “packer”.


34 posted on 11/17/2014 11:41:02 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: IMR 4350

Thanks.

A good explanation, clearly written.


35 posted on 11/17/2014 11:44:53 AM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: thackney

Ah. that explains it.

I could not picture ANYONE voluntarily drinking the chemical equivalent of antifreeze.


36 posted on 11/17/2014 11:46:02 AM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: WayneS

Your welcome.


37 posted on 11/17/2014 11:50:55 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: WayneS
#15 Plenty of water at the center of the earth

Blnk
38 posted on 11/17/2014 12:07:53 PM PST by minnesota_bound
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To: Kaslin

But libs will just dismiss this study.


39 posted on 11/17/2014 1:42:19 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: WayneS
Most groundwater wells are well below 1,000 ft deep.

I presume you meant above 1,000 ft. Though groundwater certainly exists below 1,000 ft., usually it is not potable. However out here in New Mexico we have artesian wells in the Pecos River Valley that are drilled to that depth and produce fresh water. In the past some of them actually flowed at the surface.

40 posted on 11/17/2014 2:44:57 PM PST by CedarDave
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