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Jonathan Gruber: Obama personally asked me to help disguise unhelpful Obamacare facts
Hotair ^ | 11/17/2014 | Guy Benson

Posted on 11/17/2014 10:00:19 AM PST by SeekAndFind

That’s not quite his verbatim quote, but it’s pretty darn close:

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“The problem is it’s a political nightmare, and people say ‘no, you can’t tax my benefits’…so what we did a lot in that room was think a lot about well how could we make this work? … And [Obama] is really a realistic guy. He was like, ‘look, I can’t just do this.’ He said ‘it’s just not going to happen politically. The bill will not pass. How do we manage to get there through phase-ins and other things?’ And we talked about it. He was just very interested in that topic.”

And why was Obama so keen on obscuring the nature of his signature law’s taxes? Perhaps because he’d just recently spent months relentlessly hammering John McCain over a proposal to tax health benefits “for the first time.” So he needed MacGruber to swoop in and help craft a strategy of evasion and deflection. Noah mentioned over the weekend that in his response to Grubergate, Obama insisted that he’d never misled the public on Obamacare (which virtually nobody really buys at this point, and for good reason) and disavowed Gruber’s seemingly endless damning comments. One formulation that stuck out to me was his assertion that Gruber “was never on our staff.” This is exceedingly weak spin. The video above contains evidence that the president was personally huddling with Gruber on the Obamacare sales pitch, charging him with fashioning accounting tricks that might provide a politically-necessary fig leaf — which Paul Ryan dismantled at the pre-passage “health care summit.” It’s impossible for the White House to just divorce itself from this guy. He was very much their guy. Not only did they furnish Gruber with $400,000 for his services, they made him a leading point person for “drafting the specifics” of the law with Congress. Via the New York Times:

Along with these credentials, Mr. Gruber’s position as an adviser to the influential Congressional Budget Office also left him perfectly positioned to advise the White House on health reform. “The most important arbiter of everything was the C.B.O.,” said Neera Tanden, who was a senior adviser for health reform at the Department of Health and Human Services. The C.B.O.’s assessment of a bill’s efficacy and costs strongly influences political debate, but the office does not publicly reveal how it calculates those numbers. “We knew the numbers he gave us would be close to where the C.B.O. was likely to come out,” Ms. Tanden said. She was right. After Mr. Gruber helped the administration put together the basic principles of the proposal, the White House lent him to Capitol Hill to help Congressional staff members draft the specifics of the legislation.

That 2012 profile also quotes Gruber cheerfully describing himself as a “card-carrying Democrat” who routinely holds election night “victory parties” with friends. (How did this year’s celebration go, I wonder?) Obama can try to pull a Pelosi with Gruber. Good luck with that. Alternatively, he can keep lying about not having lied, but only the hardest-core of partisans will believe him. Even Obamacare supporters like Ron Fournier are throwing in the towel, conceding that the law was constructed on a “foundation of lies.” Indeed.


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To: iowacornman
Obama said he didn't know Gruber....so this is just a figment of the imagination...


121 posted on 11/17/2014 9:45:53 PM PST by caww
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To: Sacajaweau
I fear for Gruber.

I drove by his house yesterday evening and was disappointed by the total lack of villagers with torches and pitchforks.

122 posted on 11/17/2014 9:53:42 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: SeekAndFind

Uh-oh!


123 posted on 11/17/2014 10:06:45 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: SeekAndFind
"He's not going to stop snitching..."


124 posted on 11/18/2014 3:08:56 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: VideoDoctor
Obama initially denied he even knew who Gruber was. The visitor logs would show how many times Gruber was at the WH and in the Oval Office. I have seen reports that put the number of conversations between Gruber and Obama in the high single digits. Confirmation of this would be sufficient to prove, once again, that Obama was lying.
125 posted on 11/18/2014 5:38:49 AM PST by riverdawg
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To: Grampa Dave
6 Grubergate videos so far make Nixon’s little missing tape minutes look like a sniffle in preschool.

Obama: No Corruption, No Political Motivations in IRS Scandal (Yeah right)


126 posted on 11/18/2014 6:03:00 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Will never happen. Too many milquetoast Republicans.


127 posted on 11/18/2014 6:58:51 AM PST by hsrazorback1 (Seek truth.)
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To: hsrazorback1

He knows that too which is why he does whatever the hell he wants. Israel just got attacked again by Palestinians and in a Synagogue no less, and do I even have to guess this putz will once again blame Israel or bash Israel if they defend themselves? What we got here is a radical Muslim as President. While we are at war with radical Islam Democrats in all their brilliance decided to make one President of the United States.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/18/deadly-attack-in-jerusalem-synagogue


128 posted on 11/18/2014 7:26:20 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Not all Muslims are terrorists but all Muslims are potential terrorists.)
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To: C210N

The Sting con job on America.

This alone should be reason to impeach Obola ..... He and his con men and women lied to America.


129 posted on 11/18/2014 9:03:21 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (The Keystone Pipeline Project : build it already Congress !)
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To: Sacajaweau

Yes. Gruber needs to stay away from Fort Marcy park. And watch his back everywhere he goes. I wouldn’t put it past resident Barry to put a hit out on him.

After all, all Barry’s “alleged” gay lovers have been meeting untimely deaths. Plus Loretta Fuddy died under mysterious circumstances.


130 posted on 11/18/2014 9:26:21 AM PST by rfreedom4u (Do you know who Barry Soetoro is?)
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To: rfreedom4u
I think that's why he's putting everything out there now....as a life insurance policy.

He won't be asked to testify when the USSC hears the new case (that's not how it works) but I'm going to bet he has already prepared a written record, signed, sealed and stored in several places.

131 posted on 11/18/2014 9:30:58 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m surprised hussein hasnt made him “disappear” yet.


132 posted on 11/18/2014 9:31:21 AM PST by Old Yeller (D.A.M.N. - Deport All Muslims Now! Starting in the White House.)
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To: Old Yeller

RE: I’m surprised hussein hasnt made him “disappear” yet.

If by that, you mean ALA Vince Foster, I’m afraid it’s too late.

He’s now too prominent to suddenly disappear without suspicion.

Better to audit him.


133 posted on 11/18/2014 9:32:44 AM PST by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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I DO NOT KNOW WHO GRUBER IS BUT YOU CAN KEEP YOUR DOCTOR
STUPID STUPID STUPID
HE IS THE BASTARD SITTING THERE NEXT TO YOU



134 posted on 11/18/2014 10:39:58 AM PST by devolve (- barter &/or trade items &/or services - let the IRS and DOJ get their money from illegal aliens -)
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To: Sybeck1
He needs to be in front of a congressional committee firing squad

Fixed

135 posted on 11/18/2014 11:01:27 AM PST by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: caww

wow!


136 posted on 11/18/2014 12:07:11 PM PST by nikos1121
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To: rfreedom4u

Not to mention the grandmother


137 posted on 11/18/2014 12:08:26 PM PST by nikos1121
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To: devolve

WHy haven’t we seen this photograph anywhere but here?


138 posted on 11/18/2014 12:09:13 PM PST by nikos1121
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To: riverdawg

Obama is saying Guber was not part of HIS “staff” so he’s of course hedging the obvious using verbage. Guber was paid as a so called “consultant”....... Ya gotta watch the language because they use it to twist the truth in order to cover themselves.


139 posted on 11/18/2014 12:10:45 PM PST by caww
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To: Sacajaweau
I fear for Gruber.

I eat popcorn in Gruber's general direction.

140 posted on 11/18/2014 12:12:58 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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