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In Oregon Illegal Immigrant Referendum, a Warning for Obama [2-1 against giving driver's licenses]
Pajamas Media ^ | 11/17/2014 | Rick Moran

Posted on 11/17/2014 8:10:24 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Little noticed after the midterm vote, which saw the GOP take control of the Senate and increase their majority in the House, was a referendum in sky blue Oregon to repeal the law that granted illegal immigrants the right to obtain a driver’s license.

Even though the Democrats increased their majority in the state legislature and a Democratic governor was reelected, the measure for repeal passed by a 2-1 margin.

This is a stark warning to President Obama and the Democrats that if he acts alone to amnesty 5 million illegals, his march to irrelevancy will be complete, and the party he leads could pay an awful price in 2016.

The Associated Press reports:

The state law had seemed to be popular. It easily passed last year with bipartisan support in the Democratic-controlled Legislature and was signed Democratic Gov. John Kitzhaber, who was re-elected Nov. 4.

Opponents barely gathered enough signatures to put the repeal question on the ballot. Immigrant rights groups outspent their opponents 10-1.

Still, the measure failed in every county but the state’s most liberal one, Multnomah, home to Portland. Even there it trailed significantly behind other Democratic candidates and causes.

“It was really the epitome of a grassroots effort,” said Cynthia Kendoll, one of the activists who led the campaign against licenses. “There’s such a disconnect between what people really want and what’s happening.”

Obama made his postelection pledge on immigration despite the drubbing that Democrats took across the country. He said he had to act because Congress has deadlocked on immigration for years.

A bipartisan Senate bill to provide citizenship to many of the 11 million people in the U.S. illegally died in the Republican-controlled House, and with the GOP now holding a majority in the Senate, many believe it is unlikely any broad immigration measure could make it to Obama before the end of his term.

Allowing immigrants in the U.S. illegally to remain in the country generally polls well. Even 57 percent of the conservative-leaning national electorate that voted Nov. 4 favors legalization, according to exit polling for the Associated Press and other news organizations.

Immigration has been seen as a winning issue for Democrats because Hispanic and Asian populations account for an increasing share of the electorate, especially in presidential years.

Eleven other states have granted driver’s licenses to people in the U.S. illegally, and 17 allow them to pay in-state tuition at public universities.

But Mark Krikorian of the Center for Immigration Studies in Washington, D.C., which advocates more restrictions on immigration, says voters often are befuddled by complex immigration proposals and polling questions, overstating the actual support for an immigration overhaul.

The Oregon vote, he said, is proof of that.

“Whenever the public gets that sort of clear-cut, black-and-white issue for tougher controls — even in Oregon, when they’re legalizing dope — they support them,” Krikorian said. “It really highlights how this issue is not a Republican-liberal issue like, say, taxes and abortion, but an up-down issue, elites versus the public.”

Krikorian is right. If you look at this most recent Pew Poll on illegal immigrants, you might be surprised to see 71% supporting granting illegal aliens legal status. But the caveat “if certain requirements are met” is the kicker.

This Pew Poll from late last summer approaches the question a little differently:

The national survey by the Pew Research Center, conducted August 20-24 among 1,501 adults, finds that 33% say the priority should be on better border security and tougher enforcement of immigration laws, while 23% prioritize creating a way for people in the U.S. illegally to become citizens if they meet certain conditions. About four-in-ten (41%) say both should be given equal priority.

These priorities have changed since Feb. 2013, early in Obama’s second term. The share saying that both approaches should be given equal priority has fallen from 47% to 41%. Over the same period, the percentage prioritizing enhanced border security and stronger enforcement of immigration laws has risen eight points, from 25% to 33%. There has been little change in the percentage saying the priority should be creating a path to citizenship for people in the U.S. illegally (25% in Feb. 2013, 23% today).

If you give the voter the choice between legalization or border enforcement, legalization loses. Most of those “certain requirements” that have to be met before legalization occurs have to do with securing the border first. When the voter is confronted with an “either/or” proposition, they choose border enforcement going away.

One poll taken recently shows that 74% of Americans want the president to work with Congress rather than acting alone on immigration. What will be the reaction to the president’s unilateral amnesty plan? It’s likely that even some members of his own party will scurry for cover while the people punish the Democrats in 2016.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: aliens; driverslicense; illegals; oregon; referendum

1 posted on 11/17/2014 8:10:24 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I wish we could such a referendum on the ballot here in CA along with an initiative to require ID for voting.

But then again....the courts would probably overturn them like they do everything else we pass.


2 posted on 11/17/2014 8:13:41 AM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: SeekAndFind
I had reason to get info from California DMV and used both google and bing to search for the site. Both searches returned a site for the California DMV that is ENTIRELY IN SPANISH. You have to search the page to find if a translation was available. It was but upon seeing the site I was seething and decided I could call California AAA for the info instead.

I did call California DMV and there is a one-for-English and two-for-Spanish option which if you do not respond at least defaults to English.

Moonbean is not only giving ILLEGALS driver licenses he's given them the state DMV.

3 posted on 11/17/2014 8:21:02 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Warning for Odungo?.....as if he cares


4 posted on 11/17/2014 8:22:50 AM PST by Doogle (( USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

This bill was brought to fight the law that the legislature adn Governor passed into law. This overturned that law by petition.

Pray America is waking


5 posted on 11/17/2014 8:26:44 AM PST by bray (Palin/Perry)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

I expect this illegal alien driver’s license ban to be overturned by a court.

State after state, including a number of liberal states, voted to define marriage as a man and a woman. The liberals went into federal court, and got numerous court rulings that we have to have “marriage equality”, and ruled that the states are not allowed to define marriage.

I expect the same with an issue such as this. The liberals will demand “equality” for the illegal aliens, since illegals don’t have the rights of citizenship. They will go into court and get this law overturned. And they will have strong ammunition if Obama goes ahead with his decree of illegal alien amnesty.

Obama has appointed about 1/3 of all judges currently sitting in federal courts. That is a huge group of liberal judges just waiting to overturn “discriminatory” legislation and “fighting for equality”, for whatever grievance group is demanding “justice”.


6 posted on 11/17/2014 8:27:03 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Exactly.

That’s how liberals win the argument.

If they can’t win at the ballot, they take it to the courts.


7 posted on 11/17/2014 8:30:57 AM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

RE: But then again....the courts would probably overturn them like they do everything else we pass.

You just reminded me... what’s to stop the courts from overturning the Oregon referendum?


8 posted on 11/17/2014 8:31:12 AM PST by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Sadly, I have no doubt that you are right.


9 posted on 11/17/2014 8:32:09 AM PST by Nea Wood
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To: SeekAndFind

Cynthia Kendoll should run for Governor in Oregon.

They lied to her, obstructed her, smeared her but she was relentless and pushed this through.

Kitzhaber is a Ken Doll grifter with an equally opportunist girlfriend. Someone with integrity could make a real run on him.


10 posted on 11/17/2014 8:41:38 AM PST by Regulator
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To: SeekAndFind

It is strange, isn’t it? An electorate so leftist that it gives another term to governor who screwed up his state’s Obamacare launch big-time (and just blamed underlings), wasting billions ... can still see that having DLs for illegals makes no sense.


11 posted on 11/17/2014 8:51:25 AM PST by pogo101
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To: SeekAndFind; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ..
Ping!

Click the keyword Aliens to see more illegal alien, border security, and other related threads.

12 posted on 11/17/2014 9:00:12 AM PST by HiJinx (Time to read "EFAD" once again...)
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To: Regulator

Some one did! Senator Dennis Richardson. A true conservative, gentleman, and a scholar.


13 posted on 11/17/2014 9:01:11 AM PST by OregonRancher (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints)
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To: SeekAndFind
...and a CORRUPT Democratic governor was reelected...

There, fixed it.

14 posted on 11/17/2014 9:04:45 AM PST by Veggie Todd (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TJ)
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To: SeekAndFind

Obama doesn’t care. The illegals will vote for democrats in perpetuity.


15 posted on 11/17/2014 9:19:40 AM PST by Organic Panic
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To: SeekAndFind

Won’t even slow him down.O knows best.


16 posted on 11/17/2014 9:31:00 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: SeekAndFind

He does not care.

Flood the zone with illegals, have them start dropping babies, and in a generation or two the Dems have their permanent majority.


17 posted on 11/17/2014 10:41:06 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeekAndFind

“what’s to stop the courts from overturning the Oregon referendum?”

Nothing I guess. But according to Mark Levin, the Constitution (if it still means anything) provides for the final remedy, namely, that the state legislature can override the activist court. But they need the votes...and the guts.

But it can and should be done in all 50 states.


18 posted on 11/17/2014 11:55:48 AM PST by Paulie (Get off the grid.)
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To: HiJinx

btt


19 posted on 11/17/2014 4:45:44 PM PST by Dante3
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