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To: Jabba the Nutt
A very good piece of writing with a firm grasp of the history of the affair.

I would only add to the history that the bill was written deliberately in such a fashion so as to prevent a contrary analysis from becoming obvious. Hence, if you want to know what is in it you have to pass it. Nancy Pelosi's remarks was not as fatuous as it sounds if considered from this angle. The whole drama was designed to pass stealth legislation.

Gruber provided the cover for Democrats who could plausibly point to his study and talk about sunshine and unicorns. Obama went on the hustings and did the rest. The point all around was to suspend disbelief as you point out. Some of them like Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama were no doubt explicitly guilty of lying. Most of the rest of the Democrats complied by suspending disbelief. Gruber was there to provide cover and to give the media a plausible hook.

The fact remains that taxpayer dollars were disreputably paid out to provide propaganda to mislead taxpayers. The Democrat elites were certainly possessed of guilty knowledge, the rest of them should have known, no doubt many of them did, some chose not to know.


9 posted on 11/15/2014 9:38:50 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford
This Gruber thing is much, much bigger than needing to lie to "stupid American voters". Under Natural Law, which our Founders believed in and upon which they wrote the Declaration of Independence and set up the Federal Government under the Constitution, the People are the sovereign. The government are servants to the People.

What Gruber/Obama/the Democrat Party have done is subversion, high crimes and misdemeanors of the highest order. They're lying, scamming and plotting to overturn the political order to place themselves permanently on top as ruling class, an oligarchy, to replace the constitution.

As Mark Levin, this is the type of actions that spawn revolts. And this is the urgency and desperation of our situation that the blind moles and post turtles of the elected GOP just simply do not understand. They think that we're in just another cycle of "politics as usual", instead we have lawless revolutionary President conducting a self-coup against the lawful order.

21 posted on 11/15/2014 9:57:16 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (You can have a free country or government schools. Choose one.)
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To: nathanbedford

The fact remains that taxpayer dollars were disreputably paid out to provide propaganda to mislead taxpayers.


This is the money sentence. And we demand our power and representation back.


40 posted on 11/15/2014 10:13:53 AM PST by Yaelle
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