Posted on 11/15/2014 9:09:13 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt
In two videos, Jon Gruber D-MIT told friendly audiences that he had to lie in order to get ObamaCare passed and he took advantage of the stupidity of the American Voter to accomplish his goal.
Let's back up one step. Obama was elected to the Presidency in 2008. In the same election, in the House, the results were 257 to 178 or 59% of the seats were won by Democrats. In the Senate, the Democrats won 59 seats and with Arlen Specter's party switch, the result was 60 to 40, a filibuster proof super majority. This was enough to pass anything they wanted.
Then Ted Kennedy died on August 25, 2009. The special election to replace him was held on January 19th, 2010, when Scott Brown famously was elected as the 41st vote against ObamaCare. The Senate passed ObamaCare 12/23/2009, but Brown's election deprived the Democrats of a guarantee to break a filibuster. This is the political context for Gruber's and all the lies in support of ObamaCare.
In spite of Obama's campaign of lies backed by the media and all the good forces in society, but without opposition of the Pharmaceutical Industry (bought off this time to prevent any 'Harold and Louise' ads) or the Insurance Industry (bought off with the promise of 30 million new customers through the mandate to buy insurance) or effective opposition by the hapless GOP (who's leader's really didn't mind all that much that ObamaCare was passed, as it increased their own power), ObamaCare never managed to gain a majority of Americans to support it.
How can this be? Americans were told, "If you like your plan, you can keep it. If you like your Doctor, you can keep your doctor." Americans were told "You will save $2500 a year." Americans were told that everyone will be covered and that health and financial security would be secure for the first time in our history. These were all lies, now irrefutably exposed by the videos of our pal, Prof. Jon Gruber of MIT. At the time, criticism of ObamaCare was attacked and simply political partisanship extending to personal hatred of Obama based on his race. Remember Speaker Pelosi walking through the crowd of Tea Party protestors with her giant gavel and the false charge of racism that followed with the lies that Black Democrat politicians were spit on and racials slurs were used. These charges were also lies.
If Americans had believed these promises, who could possibly be against a plan that would not change your current insurance or doctor network and with the cherry on top, you would save $2500. There should be 99% support. ObamaCare never gained majority public support. More than half of the American voters apparently weren't so stupid as to believe the Obama/Gruber/Democrat lies.
Now we've reached the point where we can ask, who was Gruber lying to? Gruber said ObamaCare was written in a tortuous way, so that the CBO would not count provisions of ObamaCare as taxes and that they shoved off costs to the States, so that the Federal cost could be kept under a trillion dollars. So, did the CBO believe the lie? I doubt it. The went along with the lie for organizational reasons, Congress was run by the Democrats. They went along because they were required by law to score the bill according the the way it was given them, not as it would actually do in reality. Was the CBO so stupid, that it didn't know it was being lied to? I doubt it.
How about the States? Now, the Gruber and others wrote ObamaCare so that only people, who bought ObamaCare through State exchanges would be able to receive subsidies. The ObamaCaristas thought that ObamaCare would be so popular, that the public, stupid Americans, would then demand that the States establish their own exchanges or the politicians in those States would be punished by the "stupid voters".
Now, did the States believe the Gruber/Obama lies? Only 14 States set up their own Healthcare Exchanges, while 34 States did not. So, State politicians weren't coerced into setting up Exchanges with the lure of free money or the pressure of their constituents. Gruber's lie is another big fail.
In current news, the success of ObamaCare was so important, the minor detail that subsidies only applied to purchasers under the State Exchanges has been ignored and purchasers in all States have received subsidies. These videos of Gruber are going to be part of the case against the Federal Government providing the subsidies. This case has been accepted by the Supreme Court. This Mastermind, Gruber, just couldn't keep his yap shut.
Chief Justice John Roberts famously changed his vote deciding that ObamaCare was unconstitutional, and by re-writing the bill himself, viola, determined what Gruber said was not a tax, was really a tax, thus ObamaCare was a constitutionally authorized tax. Did John Roberts believe Gruber/Obama's lies? Well, no. On one day before the Court, the Obama Administration argued that ObamaCare was not a tax. On the second day, they argued that it was a tax. Gruber knew it was a tax, lied about it to the public, but Roberts didn't fall for the lie. Well, at best, didn't fall for one lie and believed the other lie.
We've seen many videos of Democrat Politicians repeating the Obama lie "if you like your plan...", did they believe the lie? I doubt it.
The mainstream media (what's left of it) picked up and repeated Gruber/Obama lies about ObamaCare. Rush yesterday picked up on Ron Fournier, the AP's Washington DC bureau chief, surprise that Obama lied, that Gruber lied, that the Democrat Party lied, that the Media lied, that indeed ObamaCare was built on a fountain of lies.
So, we are reaching the end of the trail. Yes, Gruber and Obama lied, but the only people who actually believed them and were taken in were the mainstream media and the low information voter types, who only heard about ObamaCare and understood that it meant free healthcare for them, like the free ObamaPhones they had.
The "stupid American voter" took every chance they could to vote against ObamaCare starting in January 2010 with Scott Brown in Massachusetts. Massachusetts!! If they can't fool 'em there with big government, they can't fool 'em anywhere. The blowout mid-term elections in 2010 and 2014 were all about ObamaCare. What about the re-election of Obama in 2012? Romney didn't campaign against ObamaCare and barely had a cross word to say about him. Romney dissed the Tea Party, Palin and conservatives, which gave the GOP the Majority in the House in 2010. If Romney had only received the same number of votes that McCain did, he'd've won. He gave millions of voters no reason to come out and vote for him. You can't expect voters to drag candidates across the finish line by themselves.
RomneyCare was also constructed by Gruber, who also crowed about "ripping off the Federal Government" to the tune of $400 million a year to pay for it. And there's already been speculation that if Romney decides to run in 2016, that this Gruber fiasco could doom him too.
So, what was the purpose of Gruber's lies? I'd say they were basically just cover for the Democrat Members of Congress, talking points for them to repeat. Nancy Pelosi was out there, 'Did you read the analysis written by Jon Gruber?' was a answer to a reporter questioning ObamaCare's financial promises. They could repeat the "if you like" mantra without believing it.
National Healthcare run by the Federal Government has been the Progressive Dream for over a hundred years. The goal for Obama and the Democrat Party was to pass something anything to get the vast expansion of the Federal Government it on the books and the power in their hands. Then they'd fix it as they went along. For that was the purpose, to have the People come crawling to the politician to help them. Obama has unilaterally changed his own law 30+ times to fix it.
He'd have preferred to have a Democrat Congress to do this work for him, but the "stupid American voters" put the kibosh on this, but throwing out the ObamaBots of the Democrat House in 2010 and the Democrat Senate in 2014. That the GOP House has done nothing to stop him is beside the point.
Certainly not the MSM who up til now have still not reported on Gruber and continue to shield Obola from any possible criticism.
“the stupidity of the American Voter”
Is anyone denying this when it comes to voters on the left
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Ted Kennedy - re elected for almost half a century, even after he killed a woman.
Not killed, as in, she rode her bike Into the street in front of his car. He murdered her to protect his career.
There’s got to be some kind of mail fraud or wire fraud charge in all this, or RICO, isn’t there?
Thanks ever so much!
And what about the 'pubs who didn't do all they could to end it, when Ted Cruz handed them the road map to do so? They said it was a "campaign issue".
Well they won. Making it a campaign issue means the 'pubs now own it, and they sure as hell better have a way to get rid of it. And I don't mean after another election.
Cincinatus’ Wife has compiled a nice list of links to the Gruber lies. Freepmail her.
Okay
There you go Gruberizing again.
He was lying specifically in the construction or writing of Law to benefit a desired end. He was lying to America.
You nailed it. Obama was willing to entrust the fundamental transformation of the best healthcare system in the world to a scam artist. How scary is that?
Gruber references the "tortuous language". It was purposefully obtuse, so that it could neither be clearly understood nor easily refuted. Even challenging it in court has been difficult because the wording can be argued from several different angles (tax, mandate, fine, tax, mandate, fine?).
It was always a moving target and continues to be. How many times has Obama unilaterally changed the law?
The hallmark of a good con is that the marks don’t believe they were swindled even when presented with the evidence. The Democrat voters and politicians were the targets of the scam.
I think so, you’d need Mark Levin as Attorney General to push it through.
Jonathan Gruber was Mitt Romney’s key guy in constructing the state run health care tyranny in Massachussetts. Mitt Romney was the Republican nominee for President and is still acclaimed as a legitimate leader by the current crop of Republican Leaders. And Mitt Romney hired Jonathan Gruber, who thinks Americans are stupid, and government should lie to the stupid citizens to get what the smarter government people want, like Romneycare.
Jonathan Gruber is a 100% indictment of the Republican RINO leadership, who did nothing to expose the fraud of Obamacare, or repeal it, over the past four years. And now that it is a known fraud, they are promising, via Mitch McConnell to fund it, and do nothing to repeal it.
"I am here from the government to destroy the Constitution
for the impostor Indonesian, you stupid suckers."
And they had the gall to run that piece of sh*t for President.
This bloated drunken woman killing tub of animal puss who insults the memory of every last vet buried in Arlington. Imagine that, he's buried in Arlington because he acted as a guard for a few seconds in Paris.
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