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Grubered again! 'Stupid' Americans 'falling off a building'
WND ^ | 11/14/14 | Chelsea Schilling

Posted on 11/15/2014 9:05:38 AM PST by Enlightened1

Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber – who has been making headlines this week after a video surfaced of him admitting the law was meant to take advantage of the “stupidity of the American voter” – acknowledged that the administration knew U.S. workers would lose their job-based health insurance when President Obama’s signature legislation took effect.

“If you like your health-care plan, you can keep it,” Obama said numerous times when pitching the new law.

But by fall 2013, more than 4 million Americans were getting cancellation letters in their mailboxes.

As it turns out, Gruber, also an MIT economics professor, apparently knew it would happen – reportedly comparing U.S. workers losing their insurance to people “falling off a building.”

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aca; gruber; gruberedagain; grubergate; herrgruberstrikes; jobs; obamacara
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1 posted on 11/15/2014 9:05:38 AM PST by Enlightened1
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2 posted on 11/15/2014 9:09:29 AM PST by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: GraceG

Shouldn’t that be JonGruber?


3 posted on 11/15/2014 9:11:42 AM PST by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: Enlightened1

We didn’t fall off a building,we were pushed.


4 posted on 11/15/2014 9:12:17 AM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Enlightened1

“If you like your plan, you can keep your plan. Period.”

He sure grubered the country!


5 posted on 11/15/2014 9:18:37 AM PST by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: Enlightened1
Let Gruber know how you feel. I thanked him myself; he's the best example of blunt liberalism there is!

http://economics.mit.edu/faculty/gruberj

6 posted on 11/15/2014 9:23:23 AM PST by celmak
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To: celmak

YES, and Rich Lowry agrees with you in a National Review article entitled ‘Thank You Jonathan Gruber”. Next to last paragraph starts “Most Liberals...” and is perfect description of liberalism vs. conservatism imo.


7 posted on 11/15/2014 9:34:27 AM PST by bunster
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To: celmak

Maybe some “stupid” Citizens will have the opportunity to thank him in person over the next several years?


8 posted on 11/15/2014 9:42:20 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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9 posted on 11/15/2014 9:43:49 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Enlightened1

I’ve been wondering what Pajama Boy’s background is.
Wondered what silver-spoon enclave he came from,
what privileged brilliance spawned his heart and mind.

(Yes, Pajama Boy. I have it on the HIGHEST degree
of accuracy that PB was based on The Grubs.
I read it on Facebook).

Anyway, found this on a website: (formatted for FR)
Ridgewood NJ? Just trying to shed more light on the guy,
in case any of his old teachers want to stand up
and be counted as influences.

“Hello, my people!

Do you not know that Jonathan Gruber,
blameworthy primary architect and shameless
promoter of Obamacare, is the son of long time
Ridgewood residents Martin and Ellie Gruber of
South Irving Street in Ridgewood,

the same street
on which lived (at the same time) James Hansen,
high-ranking NASA scientist and blameworthy
primary architect and shameless promoter of the
now thoroughly discredited theory of
anthropogenic global warming? “..... snip

from:
http://theridgewoodblog.net/obamacare-architect-jonathan-gruber-admited-in-2012-that-subsidies-were-limited-to-state-run-exchanges/


10 posted on 11/15/2014 9:45:50 AM PST by CaptainPhilFan ( It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chew your ass out all day long)
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To: bunster

Call him in to a congressional hearing, have Trey put his balls in a legal vice, and offer him immunity to tell the world how smart he is and how he and the President planned this whole deception out. How brilliant they and the democrat leadership were to fool the rest of us poor simple peasants. He wouldn’t be able to resist telling the world how smart he thinks he is!


11 posted on 11/15/2014 9:46:32 AM PST by resistance (abandon all hope and rational thought, become a democrat)
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To: Enlightened1

Gruber is another Soros/Ayers Sonderkommando!


12 posted on 11/15/2014 9:50:27 AM PST by Dr. Ursus
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To: CaptainPhilFan; Protect the Bill of Rights
Do you not know that Jonathan Gruber,
blameworthy primary architect and shameless
promoter of Obamacare, is the son of long time
Ridgewood residents Martin and Ellie Gruber of
South Irving Street in Ridgewood,

the same street
on which lived (at the same time) James Hansen,
high-ranking NASA scientist and blameworthy
primary architect and shameless promoter of the
now thoroughly discredited theory of
anthropogenic global warming? “..... snip

from:
http://theridgewoodblog.net/obamacare-architect-jonathan-gruber-admited-in-2012-that-subsidies-were-limited-to-state-run-exchanges/

+++++++++++++++++++

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2013/11/educator_heal_thyself.html#ixzz3IyCGlksB

But, unfortunately, that wouldn’t neatly align with his sociological credo. Jonathan Gruber is the son of the New York University Stern Finance Professor (Emeritus) Martin J. Gruber, who received his Ph.D. from Columbia, and was once Director of the National Bureau of Economic Research. That’s equivalent to a winning genetic lottery ticket, isn’t it?

http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/private/person.asp?personId=8656673&privcapId=6166471&previousCapId=28149137&previousTitle=DWS%20Institutional%20Funds%20-%20DWS%20S&P%20500%20Index%20Fund

http://www.stern.nyu.edu/faculty/bio/martin-gruber

Martin J. Gruber is Professor Emeritus and Scholar in Residence at the Leonard N. Stern School of Business of New York University where he previously served as Professor of Finance for 45 years.

He is a director, a member of the executive committee and a member of the investment committee of the National Bureau of Economic Research.

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Health Reforms May Hurt Uninsured - Study analyzes hospitals in California
THE SAN FRANCISCO CHRONICLE - Saturday, January 30, 1993
Author: Jonathan Marshall, Chronicle Staff Writer

Health care reforms under consideration by the Clinton administration could backfire against uninsured patients, a new study of California hospitals suggests.

A move in California in the 1980s to control the upward spiral of medical costs by encouraging price competition produced discounts of nearly 5 percent for paying patients, according to an analysis released by the National Bureau of Economic Research, an academic clearinghouse in Cambridge. Price competition is a key element in ``managed competition’’ and ``managed care’’ scenarios being reviewed by a White House task force led by Hillary Clinton.

At the same time, however, the move to competition also slashed the amount of uncompensated care 36 percent from its expected value.

``The bottom line I want to push is that if you lower the price of care, it may . . . not be unambiguously good if it means kicking out the uninsured,’’ said Jonathan Gruber , a Massachusetts Institute of Technology economist who authored the study.

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13 posted on 11/15/2014 9:52:47 AM PST by maggief
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To: maggief

Isn’t there some definable RICO going on in all this? Mail fraud was how Tom Cruise brought down his crooked lawyer firm.


14 posted on 11/15/2014 9:58:52 AM PST by txhurl (2014: Stunned Voters do Stunning Things!)
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To: Enlightened1

LIEberalism—— liars, liars, OBammycare’s on fires.
Lower healthcare costs = lie
Keep your plans = lie
Keep your doctors = lie

Let’s not forget the friendly opt out fines that will kick in and increase every year for awhile. Ok they spoke a truth on that one. Pay up stupid American voters.


15 posted on 11/15/2014 9:59:12 AM PST by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: UCANSEE2

Get me those detonators!


16 posted on 11/15/2014 9:59:15 AM PST by xp38
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To: Enlightened1

Gruber is looking for ways to downplay religion and show that the government god is the best for everyone.

I am curious if anyone knows what religion he is. I can’t find anything.

Here are some of his technical papers on religion and economy. All information below is not mine, but copied from the net.


Faith-based charity and crowd-out during the great depression
http://economics.mit.edu/files/6424

THE CHURCH VS. THE MALL: WHAT HAPPENS WHEN RELIGION FACES INCREASED SECULAR COMPETITION
http://economics.mit.edu/files/6421

Does Church Attendance Cause People to Vote? Using Blue Laws’ Repeal to Estimate the Effect of Religiosity on Voter Turnout
http://www.nber.org/papers/w14303

Religious Market Structure, Religious Participation, and Outcomes: Is Religion Good for You?
http://www.nber.org/papers/w11377

PAY OR PRAY?
THE IMPACT OF CHARITABLE SUBSIDIES ON RELIGIOUS ATTENDANCE
http://www.freakonomics.com/media/PayOrPray.pdf

In “Pay or Pray? The Impact of Charitable Subsidies on Religious Attendance” (abstract; PDF), Gruber tried to determine whether giving money to church is a complement to religious attendance or a substitute — and, whether it’s the giving or the going that actually makes people better off. Here’s his suggestion for the Rogers Family:

GRUBER: I would say if it’s really going … to church that matters for them, for their happiness and well-being, then they should maybe even give less and just go more.

And here’s what Gruber found in his paper “Religious Market Structure, Religious Participation, and Outcomes: Is Religion Good for You?” (abstract; PDF):

GRUBER: [The religious are] more likely to have higher incomes, higher education, have more stable marriages, be less likely to be on welfare, essentially be more successful on any economic measure you want to use.


17 posted on 11/15/2014 10:04:21 AM PST by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - a Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: celmak

“Let Gruber know how you feel.”

Yeah. Subject him to his own health care plan. That’s the way laws in this country are supposed to work.


18 posted on 11/15/2014 10:27:25 AM PST by haroldeveryman
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To: maggief

Video: Illustrating the Success of Health Care Reform
By Jonathan Gruber | January 17, 2012

(Snips from transcript) Gruber speaking:

...will begin the process of controlling health care costs, by setting up health insurance exchanges where insurers will have to compete for your business and moving towards a system of reimbursing doctors based on making you healthier, not how much care they deliver. ...

...Fourth, the ACA will reduce the deficit - by more than $100 billion in the coming decade, through spending cuts and raising taxes on the highest income families. ...

...The ACA is NOT a government takeover of insurance - it represents an expansion of private insurance and will allow those who are happy with their insurance to keep their plans. ...

...The ACA does NOT impose death panels, and in fact helps seniors by filling in the “donut hole” in their prescription drug coverage. ...

...The ACA does NOT force Americans to buy insurance they can’t afford. ...

source: https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/healthcare/news/2012/01/17/10960/video-illustrating-the-success-of-health-care-reform/


19 posted on 11/15/2014 10:53:37 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Enlightened1

Here’s-Another-One BUMP


20 posted on 11/15/2014 10:59:59 AM PST by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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