Posted on 11/14/2014 1:33:25 PM PST by SeekAndFind
I just don’t see a lot of real enthusiasm anywhere for this witch. The only reason any democrat operatives will support her is for their own pursuit of power. Which automaticaly means a campaign fraught with infighting, and where losers in the internal power struggles will turn on the campaign. (Which sounds a whole lot like McCain’s campaign). Shrillery has made too many enemies, is inherently unlikeable, and has too much public baggage.
In other words, she’s perfect. And not going to be their candidate.
Big fight brewing
The hard core leftist democrats want to make Hillary America’s First Queen.
The moderate leftist democrats just want to make her President For Life.
Disagree. The hard core want Warren.
it will all go to hell when she strokes out
I’ll renew my prediction...Fauxahontas for prez.
Dems starting to eat their own. Just the prelude.
Sux to be them.
But, but, but, but...wasn’t she “the one” and “inevitable” in 2007?
I can’t wait for some middle aged, good looking, far left liberal Hispanic to step up and take it away from Hillary this time!
yeah, it’s all just geeks being playful. Can you imagine how abc and the rest of the obammunist lapdog media would have screamed bloody murder if these emails had come from the Sara Palin camp?
who is leading up the strategy on the right for Presidential primaries, specifically New Hampshire and Maine (the only 2 states in N.Eng. of significance)?
Both races are likely to be Paulistas vs. the establishment.
Is there room in NH for a Cruz? If so, explain your answer.
Wishful thinking does not fit the definition of “explain your answer”.
14 months away. Paulistas are dominant in the rural western counties
Cheshire
Coös
Grafton
Sullivan
and the establishment candidate will dominate in Merrimack, Hillsborough & Rockingham.
I am planning to stay out of it like the rest of Freeperville, unless I hear convincing evidence.
F Paul and F Jeb and the F Fat Boys (Cristy Creme and Suckabee) and F Romney and F Portman.
My “strategy” is to support the best person running that has a chance and belittle all the idiots who won’t see reason. Based on 2012, that won’t work.
I backed Santorum, who was clearly the most conservative of the 4 remaining candidates and the only one in a position to challenge Romney. Most freepers continued to support Newt Gingrich, who in addition to being almost as big a RINO as Romney, had NO CHANCE of winning any further primaries after his disastrous attack on Romney from the left, and was even less electable than Romney in the general election due to his rambling idiocy and rancid stink of concentrated arrogance. Newty made Rick Perry’s campaign look good and Rick Perry’s campaign was shite.
Yet all logic fell on deaf ears, “Santorum is a stalking horse for Romney!” “Todd Palin supports Newt!” “Mama, I want my baba!”.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIJJMa3y0ek
You tell me, are there still conservatives there or is everyone either a RINO or a libertarian douchebag?
Ah, the pesky use of logic:
In honor of Dumb & Dumber “2” (actually the third film) being released soon, here is a look at Santorum supporters (Lauren Holly) trying to explain Newt’s odds of winning the GOP nomination to Newt supporters (Jim Carrey):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCFB2akLh4s
The scenario also works well for 2010, with Brady supporters trying to explain the odds of Oberweis “beating Blago” to Obie supporters.
Santorum boycotted the Maine caucuses which made it difficult to support him there.
He had a barely visible campaign in NH ... and then made a weird effort after his IA victory. His campaign manager was a foul-mouthed frat boy.
So yeah, did the Iowa conservatives get it right?
The problem with boycotting New England is that it gives another candidate a chance to gain momentum.
Giuliani stayed out of NH in 2008 and it opened the door for McCain to emerge as the alternative to Mitt. Bad strategy for Rudy. Santorum need to compete in NH in order to finish a strong 4th place and eliminate Newt.
Santorum failed in SC and FL. What was that all about? Lack of resources. He also skipped Nevada and finished 4th.
As a conservative, it is necessary to compete everywhere ... as best you can. otherwise, another conservative alternative will emerge out of the vacuum.
“are there still conservatives there ? (New Hampshire)”
here is the problem with NH:
if the first primary were held in another state ... all candidates would be starting from scratch to build their organization. Not so in NH. There is a permanent RINO org in place for the sole purpose of dominating the NH primary and receiving the resulting spoils from the national GOP. the same org that backed ROmney is still in place and geared up for the 2015 campaign.
Likewise with the Paulinistas. A large grassroots org exists.
Not so with the conservative alternatives. They would be starting from scratch to build their team. Not good.
Cruz should still compete and finish 3rd ... otherwise it opens the door for somebody else.
Yes, there are conservatives in NH that normally would vote Cruz, but they have been co-opted into one of the other 2 groups ... the strong organizations suck up the random conservative voters. Strong campaigns do well, poor campaigns do poorly.
Again, if CRUZ boycotts NH and ME, could somebody rationally support him there?
AFTER Florida Pete, after NEWT lost Florida by talking like Noam Chomsky vis a vis Mitt and Bain Capital, Mitt won Nevada, but Santorum won the next batch of contests and was either winning or coming in 2nd to Mitt in almost every contest thereafter, Newt was coming in 4th to Ron Paul half the time. Mitt could have still been stopped at that point, the CRYSTAL CLEAR thing to do was to back Santorum. But no, the Newticles wouldn’t have it even though their boy was burnt toast. F.ing retards.
Now, 2016, Rand Paul is Paultarian like his pappy, not a conservative, and I doubt he can win a general election, so why should a conservative in NH or ME vote for HIM? Just to stop the “establishment guy”?
It’s clear we need primary reform, NH should not be so important. In lieu of that, what to do, I don’t know. Maybe we need a major campaign to marginalize NH, conservatives would need to get their talking points in order and go on the air and talk about how the state is not representative of the GOP to mitigate any momentum the winner gets, really drive the point home. That would take, you know, team work, are conservatives capable of that? I don’t know, I doubt it.
I don’t know about a “boycott” (remember Rudy’s “brilliant” strategy to ignore the early contests and focus on Florida? lololololololol), be on the ballot no matter how long the odds are, if the end result of that is that “the establishment guy” wins it over Rand, so what? An early exit by Paul would the best thing for conservatives, so he stops siphoning votes that should go to an actual conservative who can win the election.
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