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1 posted on 11/14/2014 11:06:10 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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Did you see the money this guy was making in “consulting fees” from the fed gov and a bunch of states? Millions....


2 posted on 11/14/2014 11:07:35 AM PST by nascarnation (Impeach, Convict, Deport)
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Gruber? Gruber?
Anyone?


3 posted on 11/14/2014 11:10:33 AM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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Mr. Weinstein was on Glenn's show today and says the new story that he needs to get out is the Cadillac Tax is a rouse to eliminate the deductibility of Health Care for Small Businesses and Large Corporations.

It makes sense, all these folks buying plans on the "Exchanges" are with after tax dollars whilst the deduction remains for small businesses to take this deduction ( it hangs by a thread IMHO ).

The Solution to Insure everyone was to Change line 29 on the 1040 so that anyone could buy a plan with Pre-Tax Dollars and expand the State Based High Risk Polls to all 50 States from the 35 we had post the ACA's enactment.

IMHO those simple changes would have increases the ability go get Insurance especially for those who "couldn't" get it.

But it wasn't about buying a Pre-Tax Dollar low cost HSA plan and maintaining your Liberty, it was all about control.

6 posted on 11/14/2014 11:13:14 AM PST by taildragger (Not my Circus, Not my Monkey ( Boy does that apply to DC...))
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Proof Tea Partiers are smarter than the average voter! It didn't fool us at all!
7 posted on 11/14/2014 11:15:37 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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is this the most transparent administration ever, yet?


8 posted on 11/14/2014 11:16:53 AM PST by sappy (criminaldems)
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Perfectly written. It is simple to understand is based on quotes and facts.

I wish every American could be “forced” to read this. There should be a law. j/k


9 posted on 11/14/2014 11:18:48 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (You are lukewarm, and I spew you out of my mouth. Even God considers spineless behavior distasteful.)
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Treason seems to be BIG business... for a long time now..
The Fox and Hound are a traveling minstrel Show....

AND the Hunters wouldn’t think of getting anywhere’s near an actual horse..


10 posted on 11/14/2014 11:20:04 AM PST by hosepipe (" This propaganda has been edited (specifically) to include some fully orbed hyperbole.. ")
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“Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage,” said Gruber. “Basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really, really critical to getting the thing to pass.” This was no open-mic gaffe. It was a clear, indeed enthusiastic, admission to an academic conference of the mendacity underlying Obamacare. First, Gruber said, the bill’s authors manipulated the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, which issues gold-standard cost estimates of any legislative proposal: “This bill was written in a tortured way to make sure CBO did not score the mandate as taxes.” Why? Because “if CBO scored the mandate as taxes, the bill dies.” And yet, the president himself openly insisted that the individual mandate — what you must pay the government if you fail to buy health insurance — was not a tax....

"I won't stop fighting to open up government. It's hard to do, because we don't control every branch, but I can tell you we have put in place the toughest ethics laws and toughest transparency rules of any administration in history. In history!"
-- President Barack Hussein Obama, 2010

"...we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of controversy..."
-- Leader of the House Nancy Pelosi, 2010

12 posted on 11/14/2014 11:22:45 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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...Gruber said, the bill’s authors manipulated the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office...

And Gruber met with the CBO in the oval office. Emails being destroyed as I type.

13 posted on 11/14/2014 11:29:09 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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Gruber will join the heads of the CDC and NIH as the disappeared ones!


14 posted on 11/14/2014 11:29:10 AM PST by Dr. Ursus
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Obama and his right hand cohorts better be watching for The Handwriting On The Wall. They have no fear but Our Supreme Being may visit them with terror instead.


15 posted on 11/14/2014 11:34:42 AM PST by Hattie
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Seems he also took advantage of the stupidity of Justice Roberts.


16 posted on 11/14/2014 11:39:56 AM PST by colorado tanker
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And as a milestone showing how far gone the republic really is over on the dhimmi media & blogs they are falling all over themselves saying "nothing to see here", "move along", etc, etc.

When half of the electorate refuse delivery of unarguable truth we are indeed in deep trouble.

17 posted on 11/14/2014 11:47:40 AM PST by Pietro
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Charlie, Herr Gruber has a book to help you and us understand how stupid and the rat congress is.


18 posted on 11/14/2014 11:50:27 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The Democrats, who run America are too old, too rich, and too very/very white elitist losers!.)
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4 Grubergate videos so far make Nixon’s little missing tape minutes look like a sneeze in preschool.

First You Tube link to Gruber bragging about lying to stupid American Voters about ObozoCare.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G790p0LcgbI

Second Grubergate Video link to Gruber bragging about how stupid American voters are/were to pass ObozoCare.

<http://hotair.com/archives/2014/11/12/gruber-video-2-no-really-american-voters-are-stupid/

Third Video from Herr Gruber on stupid Americans wanting Obozocare.

http://weaselzippers.us/205230-three-strikes-third-video-of-obamacare-architect-jonathan-gruber-calling-americans-stupid/

Fourth Grubergate video from Herr Gruber re stupid Americans.

http://www.c-span.org/video/?292478-1/health-care-reform

Remember zero Republicans in Congress voted for ObozoCare. Every stupid rat in Congress voted for it without reading the bill or caring what was in it.


19 posted on 11/14/2014 11:53:35 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The Democrats, who run America are too old, too rich, and too very/very white elitist losers!.)
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Must be the Democrats in Congress, who are the ones Gruber is/was calling the “Stupid Voters”. No/Zero Republicans in congress voted for Obamacare! Now, we all knew the democrats in Congress were the Stupid Voters!

A lot of Americans and many freepers have amnesia, when it comes to this documented ObamaCare voter history in Congress!

The documented history on the ObamaCare votes in Congress. Every single democrat senator and every single democrat congressit voted to make this Obamacare the law without reading nor understanding what they voted for.

Every single Republican in Congress voted against this Obamacare.

So, the stupid rats in congress own ObamaCare as per their own expert, Herr Gruber‘s You Tube comments.

20 posted on 11/14/2014 11:54:40 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The Democrats, who run America are too old, too rich, and too very/very white elitist losers!.)
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While the Gruber statements only confirm what many suspected. Let’s not forget while the GOPES (gop elite statists) are busy pointing fingers now. They were running the show during the 2012 re-election campaign and had the opportunity to read and explain what was in Obamacare during the 2012 election then, but didn’t do so.


21 posted on 11/14/2014 11:58:20 AM PST by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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bttt


25 posted on 11/14/2014 1:28:15 PM PST by Pagey (HELL is The 2nd Term of a POTUS who uses the terms “social justice” and “fair distribution".)
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so, Justice Roberts was right....... vindicated by Grueber


27 posted on 11/14/2014 4:56:58 PM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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Gruber was insulting even his listeners as no Republicans voted for this øbamacare nonsense, nor would have been in that audience. He's talking to fellow democrats, liberals, progressives, enemy islamists, but not conservatives. So who does he think are stupid, again?
36 posted on 11/14/2014 8:01:21 PM PST by onedoug
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