[TigersEye]

I don’t know about the rest of the country but we had sub-zero weather in November two or three winters ago here in the CO Rockies. Atypical but not unnatural.

[caww]

Here we had sub zero weather last year for a clip there. Pretty much froze things up in my area. Town water pipes burst etc.

I also remember three foot snow storms as the norm, as a kid, that were far more frequent then now.