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America’s Newest Destroyer Is Already Outdated
The Diplomat ^ | November 07, 2014 | James R. Holmes

Posted on 11/07/2014 3:48:38 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki

Hie thee hence, sea fighters, to peruse Information Dissemination‘s take on the U.S. Navy’s Zumwalt-class destroyer. Pseudo-pseudonymous pundit “Lazarus” gives a nifty profile of the newfangled vessel. That’s worth your time in itself. Though not in so many words, moreover, he depicts the attention-grabbing DDG-1000 stories of recent weeks and months as a red herring. Sure, Zumwalt features a “tumblehome” hull that makes the ship look like the second coming of USS Monitor. (This is not a compliment.) The hull tapers where it should flare and flares where it should taper. Zounds!

Yet more than cosmetics occasions commentary. Some navy-watchers voice concern about tumblehome hulls’ seakeeping ability in rough waters. Others question their ability to remain buoyant and stable after suffering mishaps or battle damage. That’s a worry in a “minimum manned” ship that relies on automated damage control. (The very idea of automated firefighting and flooding control, and sparsely populated fire parties, sits poorly with this former fire marshal.) In any event, time will tell whether the naval architects got it right.

Even if problems do come to light, Zumwalt would be far from the first fighting ship to undergo modifications to remedy problems baked into her design. The flattop USS Midway, for example, underwent repeated change over her long life — including to correct such maladies. Plus ça change.

Zumwalt‘s secondary armament has made headlines as well. The navy recently opted to substitute lesser-caliber 30-mm guns for the 57-mm guns originally envisioned to empower the ship to duel small boats and light surface combatants. The smaller mount evidently meets performance parameters for close-in engagements that its bigger counterpart misses. This too is a controversy that, in all likelihood, will be settled once sea trials put the ship through her paces. Tempest, meet teapot.

Such controversies obscure matters that are more elemental and consequential than hullforms or selecting a secondary gun. The truly important DDG-1000 question is a question of purpose. Navies exist first and foremost to win command of the sea, overcoming foes’ efforts to deny it this goal or exercise command themselves. Zumwalt, by contrast, is almost exclusively a shore-bombardment platform, designed to rain projectiles on targets far inland. That means she will either rely on other ships to hold enemy defenses at bay, or perform her mission under near-constant enemy fire. The hard fact confronting mariners is that shore-based defenses — tactical aircraft, anti-ship and anti-air missiles — now outrange the U.S. Navy fleet, while even lesser navies boast an array of submarines and patrol craft able to make trouble for outsiders. Projecting power ashore must await victory in the fight for command. Delay can cost you.

The new combatant, then, is in effect a “flotilla” vessel, to borrow Sir Julian Corbett’s taxonomy of naval fleets. Such ships neither fight for command of the sea — that mission falls to the battle fleet — nor join the “cruiser” contingent to police seas largely scoured of enemies. They do their rather humdrum jobs once others have borne the brunt of combat. In a sense, consequently, the U.S. Navy’s priciest, sexiest warships are now auxiliaries rather than capital ships — the ships that, in Alfred Thayer Mahan’s parlance, dish out and take heavy punishment in action against enemy main forces.

That could be a tough sell for taxpayers, who presumably expect their hard-earned cash to fund platforms that accomplish the navy’s chief purpose. So the navy leadership has a salesmanship challenge ahead of it.

Tactical challenges lie ahead as well. How will commanders employ DDG-1000s? The possibilities are few and unattractive. Zumwalt may become a “high-value unit” like a carrier or amphibious assault ship, escorted into combat zones by a retinue of picket ships. The escorts can attempt to fend off attack while DDG-1000 pummels land targets, much as carrier strike groups close within reach of the air wing while striving to defend themselves. Or, Zumwalt can await the results of battle before taking station within reach of her land-attack cruise missiles or advanced precision gunnery. Or, she can venture inshore alone, trusting to stealth to mask her presence. Her builders boast that the cruiser-sized vessel looks like a small craft on adversaries’ radar sets. Passive measures such as reducing her radar cross-section will doubtless help.

But none of these methods appeal. A concentric formation centered on a high-value unit is bound to attract unwanted attention. Waiting for safe seas and skies means postponing the main event, namely projecting force ashore. And relying entirely on stealth — on a big ship’s capacity to elude detection — is a hazardous business. Once Zumwalt starts firing guns and missiles, someone’s eventually going to detect her using what seafarers ruefully call the “Mark I, Mod 0 Eyeball.” Once the ship is sighted visually, her minimal ability to ward off surface, subsurface, air, or missile attack could prove fatal.

In short, DDG-1000 appears to be a man-of-war built for the halycon 1990s, when no one contested American command of the commons. The good news is that, with only three ships of the class forthcoming, the navy can treat Zumwalt as a fleet experiment, learning what works in her design and what doesn’t, trying out various tactics, and feeding that insight into future ship classes. In the meantime, upgrading the main guns for action against enemy surface ships is a must, as is hastening the development and deployment of new anti-ship cruise missiles. These are defects we already know about and must act on. If DDG-1000 is a surface-combat platform, let’s equip her to do more than fire into a continent.

Faster, please.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ddg1000; destroyer; usn
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1 posted on 11/07/2014 3:48:38 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Generally speaking the time between the concept of a weapons system and it’s actual full deployment is around 10 yrs or more. Since technology advances geometrically it stands to reason by the time a weapon his in production it is already obsolete.

We believed, when I was in the USAF, that once a new fighter is made known to the general public a newer version is already in the works.


2 posted on 11/07/2014 4:00:56 AM PST by billyboy15
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To: billyboy15

I have no idea whether these criticims are justified or not; does anyone with some Navy experience/nautical savvy know if the ship is as bad as the author claims?

If so, why on Earth did they build it?


3 posted on 11/07/2014 4:08:05 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Sounds to me like the US Navy is all set to quash Third World enemies ... something it has much recent experience with. G_d help them against the upgraded Russian or the quickly modernizing Chinese Navies.


4 posted on 11/07/2014 4:09:00 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

2X 155mm guns.
80 missiles

seems adequate


5 posted on 11/07/2014 4:20:08 AM PST by RockyTx
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To: sukhoi-30mki

What horse manure. People are fighting plenty of wars with old equipment. Make do with your “outdated warship” stupid Feds


6 posted on 11/07/2014 4:29:44 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: billyboy15
Generally speaking the time between the concept of a weapons system and it’s actual full deployment is around 10 yrs or more.

Which, as a minimum, tends to apply to both sides of a future conflict.

7 posted on 11/07/2014 4:37:50 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: Jack Hammer

The only reason for the hull’s shape is for reduced radar cross section. This same principle, used on a lesser scale, can be seen on many of the world’s current warships. If you do that well enough, the ship can achieve a rather interesting level of surprise. Beyond that, I’d rather not get into details.


8 posted on 11/07/2014 4:45:52 AM PST by Pecos (That government governs best which governs least.)
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To: Jack Hammer
I doubt the article has any merit. The fact that author claims he doesn't have faith in automated fire control damage and was a fire martial shows his lack of cognitive abilities. Automatic sprinklers are 99.9% effective and have been for over 150 years. There are no measurable number of deaths in fully sprinklered buildings. So if he got that wrong he can't get much right.
9 posted on 11/07/2014 4:46:48 AM PST by Clean_Sweep
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I guess automated damage control make sense when we have crews full of gals who do not have the upper body strength to lug the lumber necessary to plug and patch.


10 posted on 11/07/2014 5:02:17 AM PST by MSF BU (Support the troops: Join Them.)
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To: billyboy15

Blame it on Congress and all of the damn policies you have to follow for starters. Then you move on to the Program Managers that change every 2 - 3 years whose sole purpose is to make their mark by constantly changing requirements. I’ll go back to JSF i.e. F-35. It only took 13 years to do the first carrier landing.


11 posted on 11/07/2014 5:02:48 AM PST by maddog55
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To: RockyTx

Plus coed heads to accommodate the Clinton Navy’s goals.


12 posted on 11/07/2014 5:03:55 AM PST by MSF BU (Support the troops: Join Them.)
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To: Pecos

Brings up an interesting point: can they make “stealth” ships, like the way they make “stealth” airplanes?


13 posted on 11/07/2014 5:08:34 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: Clean_Sweep

I see. Thanks.

It looks like a nice ship to my (admittedly uneducated) eye.


14 posted on 11/07/2014 5:09:46 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I don’t recall the Monitor having any tumblehome at all. Now the Merrimac (or Virginia, if you prefer) did. This author is an idiot.


15 posted on 11/07/2014 5:20:05 AM PST by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Hogwash. Somebody is trying to create controversy where there is none.

This hull design has been tested and retested on computers and models. This is a reliable, proven method that’s been used by the Navy for a long time. They chose this profile for it’s ability to deflect radar AND sea keeping ability.

The ship was not designed around guns and NGFS. She is primarily a missile platform. It’s easy to forget that because VLS hides all those weapons. She’s not only useful parked 20 miles off a coast.


16 posted on 11/07/2014 5:33:47 AM PST by ryan71 (The Partisans)
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To: Jack Hammer

She’s a fine asset. The article is garbage.


17 posted on 11/07/2014 5:36:52 AM PST by ryan71 (The Partisans)
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To: HartleyMBaldwin

Neither of them did. The Virginia looked like it did above the water line but only because her superstructure was angled back to deflect cannon shot. Below the waterline she had a conventional hull.


18 posted on 11/07/2014 5:40:29 AM PST by ryan71 (The Partisans)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I had a history professor tell me once that the biggest misnomer in military studies is tge term “obsolete weaponry”.


19 posted on 11/07/2014 6:12:45 AM PST by arderkrag (NO ONE IS OUT TO GET YOU.)
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To: Clean_Sweep

The concern with the fire suppression system is legitimate. On the Zumwalt, it is Halon-based, which is very effective under normal circumstances but fails if the hull is breached — a high likelihood for a ship of the line.

A lot of the other criticisms are armchair-admiral second-guessing.


20 posted on 11/07/2014 6:16:54 AM PST by IronJack
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