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Why the Temple Mount Belongs to Jews and Israel
FrontPage Magazine ^ | November 6, 2014 | Ronn Torossian

Posted on 11/06/2014 5:27:59 AM PST by SJackson

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1 posted on 11/06/2014 5:27:59 AM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson

Bottom line: It was a Jewish city before it was an Islamic moon rock cult site.


2 posted on 11/06/2014 5:30:59 AM PST by Darksheare (People who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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3 posted on 11/06/2014 5:33:46 AM PST by SJackson (incompetent and feckless..the story of the Obama presidency. No hand on the f***ing tiller, Hillary)
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To: SJackson

No justification needed. The son’s of pig f’n dogs took it by way of the sword and have never had a claim on it. Throw them all out; Jews and Christians have always been there.


4 posted on 11/06/2014 5:36:59 AM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Darksheare
Bottom line: It was a Jewish city before it was an Islamic moon rock cult site.

By several thousand years.
If a Muslim sets foot on a piece of ground he/they claim it forever theirs.

It's a Jewish city before, now, future.

5 posted on 11/06/2014 5:40:22 AM PST by Vinnie
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To: Darksheare

> Bottom line: It was a Jewish city before it was an Islamic moon rock cult site.

I wonder how the Muslims would feel if Jews blocked access to Mecca. I’m guessing a lot of head lopping...


6 posted on 11/06/2014 5:40:46 AM PST by jsanders2001
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“Your head a’splode.”
The Muzzies would go completely batstuffingly insane.
The UN would be flooded with ranting and raving by the muzzies.


7 posted on 11/06/2014 5:49:20 AM PST by Darksheare (People who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: Vinnie

Wonder what it would take to get certain people in public office to admit that much?


8 posted on 11/06/2014 5:49:59 AM PST by Darksheare (People who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: SJackson

All of this is true. But Bibi isn’t doing anything about it, and he easily can, slowly, in steps. But people need to understand that he is a coward. Bibi was PM in the late 1990s when Israel discovered that the Muslim “Wakf” that runs the site was excavating beneath the Mount and destroying and carting off Jewish history in dumpsters to a landfill miles away. What did Netanyahu do? NOTHING. He could have easily used that as a pretext to end Jordanian administration of the Mount. He did not. He also gave away Hebron, Judaism’s 2nd holiest city. He makes me sick. Jews and gentile conservatives need to stop idolizing him and showing pictures of him in an IDF uniform (so what? every Israeli serves) and start hammering him for his cowardice.


9 posted on 11/06/2014 5:50:14 AM PST by montag813
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LOL. What a meaningless exercise. Jews and Arabs are Semites, rejectors of Christ. The Christian Church = The New Israel.

Mt. 21:43 Therefore I say to you, that the kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and shall be given to a nation yielding the fruits thereof.

10 posted on 11/06/2014 6:17:48 AM PST by GreensKeeperWillie (Sancte Maria, mater Dei, ora pro nobis.)
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I am beginning to come to the same conclusion. It pains me to say that, but the truth is that Netanyahu has blown every opportunity he has had to really set back the enemies of Israel. The latest conflict in Gaza is just another example. I have a nephew in the IDF, and he said that everybody in the IDF was furious at not being unleashed to finish off Hamas. Everyone in Israel knows that more rockets will be coming, and the truth is that it could all have been prevented. Yes, Netanyahu would have had some heat to deal with from other nations, but when the Saudis and Egyptians were on the same side, it would have been very muted. For a guy with such personal physical courage, it is rather stunning to see how little political courage he has.

Time for Feiglin.


11 posted on 11/06/2014 6:18:36 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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Strange Times,,,,


12 posted on 11/06/2014 6:43:01 AM PST by Big Red Badger ( - William Diamonds Drum - can You Hear it G man?)
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To: Darksheare

Easily for at least 3,000 years (more than likely longer).


13 posted on 11/06/2014 6:54:24 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: GreensKeeperWillie

LOL at you. God has an eternal covenant with Israel, and among His other attributes, He is not a liar. Like a parent who sometimes gets upset with the bad behavior of his or her children, but never stops loving them or being committed to them, He sometimes punishes Jews for their bad behavior...but His commitment and love never ends.

FYI, if you want to play the superseding religion game, then you will lose that one. You claim that Christianity superseded Judaism? Well, the Moslems claim that their religion superseded yours. What is good for the goose is good for the gander. You will, of course, be very upset about that, and believe and maintain until your dying day that yours is the true religion and that nothing can supersede it. Well, welcome to my world.

Back to the covenant thing. All that a covenant is, is a holy contract between God and a people. In the same way that you and I can simultaneously have multiple contracts so can God. I fail to understand why it is that so many people believe that God can only have one covenant. It is very clear in the five books of Moses (which, if you dismiss as irrelevant would simultaneously dismiss all of Christianity) that there are a different set of rules for the Jewish people. They have more burdens placed upon them, as a light unto the nations, and commensurate greater rewards if they actually do what they are supposed to do. However, it is equally clear that any person who behaves according to God’s rules has a place in Heaven.

God told Abraham in Genesis 12:3 “and I will bless those who bless thee, and him that curse the thee I shall curse; in thee shall all the families of the world be blessed.” Take heed, because God does not lie, and the God of Israel neither slumbers nor sleeps.


14 posted on 11/06/2014 6:54:41 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: montag813

It was painful for me to come to this conclusion a few years ago...but it’s true.

Israel needs a Right-Wing Zealot who will draw the sword against every muslim that even thinks about attacking Jews.


15 posted on 11/06/2014 6:57:21 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: SJackson

The Temple Mount belongs to Adonai who chose it and hallowed it with His presence. He has given it to His chosen people the Jews. No one else has any claim to it. Period. They can argue with the Creator. I read the end if the Book and already know how that one works out


16 posted on 11/06/2014 7:04:02 AM PST by Mom MD
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To: GreensKeeperWillie

You my friend are in for a big surprise. God has never abandoned His chosen people the Jews and is not done with them yet. The time is coming soon when all Israel will be saved


17 posted on 11/06/2014 7:05:59 AM PST by Mom MD
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To: GreensKeeperWillie

That’s replacement theology and flawed.
God never fails to keep His promises!

See Romans 11:24-25 for that reference (John 10:16 also) There has always been a remnant of Jews saved throughout the ages by God.

His promise to Abraham will be fulfilled soon actually.

The Church cannot nor will it ever replace Israel. We’re grafted into God’s Family thru Israel. All of Romans 11 really talks about this.


18 posted on 11/06/2014 7:09:26 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: GreensKeeperWillie
The Error of Replacement Theology

http://ldolphin.org/replacement/

19 posted on 11/06/2014 7:29:54 AM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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I can't believe that a Jew would pen a discussion of the right to the Temple Mount without citing Deuteronomy 12. The Temple Mount was effectively ordained before Joshua crossed the Jordan: 5 But unto the place which the Lord your God shall choose out of all your tribes to put his name there, even unto his habitation shall ye seek, and thither thou shalt come: 6 And thither ye shall bring your burnt offerings, and your sacrifices, and your tithes, and heave offerings of your hand, and your vows, and your freewill offerings, and the firstlings of your herds and of your flocks: 7 And there ye shall eat before the Lord your God, and ye shall rejoice in all that ye put your hand unto, ye and your households, wherein the Lord thy God hath blessed thee. 8 Ye shall not do after all the things that we do here this day, every man whatsoever is right in his own eyes. 9 For ye are not as yet come to the rest and to the inheritance, which the Lord your God giveth you. 10 But when ye go over Jordan, and dwell in the land which the Lord your God giveth you to inherit, and when he giveth you rest from all your enemies round about, so that ye dwell in safety; 11 Then there shall be a place which the Lord your God shall choose to cause his name to dwell there; thither shall ye bring all that I command you; your burnt offerings, and your sacrifices, your tithes, and the heave offering of your hand, and all your choice [3] vows which ye vow unto the Lord:
20 posted on 11/06/2014 8:58:32 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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