Posted on 11/03/2014 2:54:11 AM PST by Libloather
Amarillo, TX - Local mother claims an officer used excessive force on her middle schooler at a football game.
14-year-old Jacob Herrera attended Sam Houston middle school's Wednesday night football game. Herrera wore a rosary outside of his clothes when officer Corporal Wilson asked him to remove it.
Marivell Chavez, a witness, says she was at the game Wednesday night and claimed while Herrera was being held to the ground, he yelled, "call my mom" and "I can't breathe."
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Well, lifelong Catholic with 12 years of Catholic schooling and years of growing up around plenty of devout blue haired ladies who loved to pray the rosary and I can say this: I have never seen a Catholic wear rosary beads. Nope. Not ever. They are carried in a pouch or box when not in use and held in the hands when being used. Not saying it never happens, just that it's not commonly done. They are not a fashion item to Catholics.
Yeah. Proud members of the gang of Christ
I would think that this is a freedom of religion thing but gangs are wearing rosaries. Rosaries are not to be worn.
Rosaries are made with everything, seeds, knots, wood, compressed rose petals, gold, silver....
Wow.
Yes she could. However, I would hope hell freezes over before she submits to the Gestapo. She was violating no laws. The cop was violating the law.
My point was that a rosary isn’t a heavy neck chain with one large medallion like the photo @ Post #1.
“Real Catholics don’t wear their rosaries. It’s considered desecratory (I think I just made another word up!).”
Some Catholics in Central and South America do wear it and it’s meant for respect. Not sure why they do it, but they wear it religiously if you get my drift.
If one reads the link in post #20, one quickly realizes that the boy wearing it to honor his brother...not for the glory of God, is a sacrilegious endeavor.
It seems to me there is much lost from this news article and I am tending to side with the police on this matter.
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Not so much what you say. He was wearing it because his brother told him it would be a protection to him. So while he is honoring his brothers dying wish for him to protect himself, he wears it for it’s religious value to protect him, it is a matter of using a tool to help increase his faith and awareness of who he is.
The cops are dead wrong on this and I hope they have to pay big.
geez, if a cop tells a 14 yr old to tuck it in, just do it instead of mouthing off about your “rights”. Somehow I don’t read that this yoot is wearing a piece of metal to show off his religion - story needs more details from the other side - until then we are all making assumptions
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So when a cop tells us we can’t photograph him beating someone else up we should just put the camera away, right? When a cop tells us we can’t open carry because it scares someone, we should just go home, right. When a cop tells us we can’t wear an American flag pin because it might offend some illegal we should just put it away, right?
Yeah we should all just do whatever the cops tell us to do, that is surely the best way to protect our constitutional rights.
You are 100% correct.
No matter what police, school officials, eminent scholars, obscure clerics, etc., say; no matter what 99.9% of people say is correct, the individual must be free to identify one’s belief.
Just as some Catholics pray the Rosary, so do some Lutherans.
I’ve never seen a Catholic who prays the rosary wear it around his or her neck. A rosary is not a piece of jewelry.
Religious freedom is possessed by the boy. I would never remove a cross from my neck upon orders of authority figures. They can kill me.
This is a new one on me. I would have never guessed.
It gets worse and worse. Often, illegal alien children carry only a rosary, no other identification, so rosaries are often the only way to identify a decomposed body found in the desert.
The use of the rosary by criminal gangs and sometimes the cartels, makes the wearing of a rosary outside of the clothes like wearing a target.
An important point is that this is common knowledge in Texas. You do not wear a rosary outside your clothes, or certain colors, and you certainly do not make hand gestures that could be confused with gang signs.
So either this boy was incredibly dumb, or he was identifying himself as a gang member, in as overt a way as wearing a Confederate flag t-shirt to a mostly black school.
I personally knew a nun in Georgia that wore a Rosary as a necklace for every minute of her life. (Unless she was actively praying, then it was in her hands)
She put one around my son’s neck after she prayed for him.
Very sweet, strong, loving woman. (VERY opinionated! lol!)
“Bottom line: given the context, the police were right to act, and act forcefully.”
Against what *threat*? An idea? A thought-crime? A possible ideology?
The kid didn’t have a weapon and an idea is not a weapon. A symbol isn’t a weapon. A word isn’t a weapon.
This is up there with the idea of a ‘hate crime’. It’s the criminalization of thoughts and the possibility of an idea in a person’s heart. (Something that nobody can know.)
“An important point is that this is common knowledge in Texas.”
I lived in Texas for seven years and that is pure BS. Plenty of people wear Rosaries or (more commonly) hang them from their rear-view mirrors.
Some people do it as a matter of faith and some do it as decoration.
And no. I never associated with gang members or drug dealers/users.
“Twenty-three Amarillo gangs participated in some kind of criminal activity last year, according to crime analysis information supplied to the National Youth Gang Center’s annual survey. Amarillo gang members typically range in age from 13 to 25.”
“The current gang assessment estimates that there are 100,000 gang members in 2,500 gangs in Texas.”
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