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About Initiative Measure No. 594
Washington Alliance For Gun Responsibility ^ | N.D. | Washington Alliance For Gun Responsibility

Posted on 10/27/2014 9:42:38 PM PDT by WhiskeyX

Initiative Measure No. 594 concerns background checks for firearm sales and transfers.

This measure would apply the currently used criminal and public safety background checks by licensed dealers to all firearm sales and transfers, including gun show and online sales, with specific exceptions.

Should this measure be enacted into law? Yes [ ] No [ ]

The initiative makes sure anyone buying a gun in Washington State passes the same background check, no matter where they buy the gun and no matter whom they buy it from.

You can download the entire initiative text here.

Download an independent non-partisan legislative analysis of Initiative 594 here.

This is an initiative to the legislature. With your help, we gathered over 345,000 signatures in 2013 and submitted the initiative to the legislature on January 2, 2014. The legislature did not pass 594. It now goes to the people to be voted on this November. [....]

Paid for by Washington Alliance for Gun Responsibility PO Box 21712 Seattle, WA 98111. Top five contributors: Nicolas Hanauer, Everytown for Gun Safety Action Fund, Connie Ballmer, William Gates III, Melinda Gates

(Excerpt) Read more at wagunresponsibility.org ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; yeson594
Fact check the following claims included on the political mailers for this ballot initiative:

Studies show that states that have closed this loophole have:

38% fewer women shot and killed by their domestic partner 39% fewer police officers shot dead in the line of duty Reduce criminal's easy access to guns.

1 posted on 10/27/2014 9:42:38 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX

Repeating:

Bloomberg involved. Anti-gun warchest now up to $10 million.


2 posted on 10/27/2014 10:30:58 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: WhiskeyX
I 594 is a badly written 18.5 page law that will make it very hard for honest people to remain honest. It will also not change where or how criminals get their firearms.

The biggest problem with I 594 is the ill defined concept of transfers needing background checks, doubling the waiting period and exemptions that don't work as implied.

For example the exemption for transfer on death, has a time limit that is half to one fourth the typical time required for probate. Another exemption allows for a transfer to someone who is in imminent danger with out a background check (but that will not allow you to loan or give a firearm to someone who is being stoked unless the moment you give them the firearm the stoker is present and they give the firearm back the moment the stoker runs away. The exemption for law enforcement officers has many really concerned they will be found guilt and loose their profession.

It is a very bad law that looks like it is going to pass based on slick advertising, local media endorsements and millions of dollars donated by the ruling elite.

3 posted on 10/28/2014 12:06:08 AM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: Robert357
These idiots keep pushing the "gun show loophole",and the "internet loophole". Neither of these "loopholes" exist.

Both of these sales are covered by the same laws as any transfer. Any gun dealer who makes a sale at a gun show MUST fill out a form 4473? just like it was made in his place of business. The same applies to sales on the internet, regardless of whether the seller is a dealer or not. Interstate sales must conform to the appropriate laws in both states.

The only sales exempt are face to face sales between two private parties in their own home state.

4 posted on 10/28/2014 2:51:38 AM PDT by snowtigger (It ain't what you shoot, it's what you hit.)
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To: WhiskeyX; harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; blackie; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; ...
"Loophole" = "freedom" in the language of the left. Know thy enemy. The destruction of freedom is their intent.

Anything, I repeat, anything, that Bloomberg is involved in (not to mention his fellow socialist billionaires) is poison.

Act accordingly.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

5 posted on 10/28/2014 4:50:49 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: WhiskeyX

Simply lying with statistics. Cherry picking of data to come up with statistical anomilies.

Notice that they do *not* claim any overall reduction of homicides, they only talk about people *shot* and killed, and only in a couple of specific instances.

There is no mention if the overall homicide rate is reduced.

As firearms can be used for defense as well as aggression, to only look at firearms crimes is data selection bias.


6 posted on 10/28/2014 5:09:39 AM PDT by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: WhiskeyX

“The initiative makes sure anyone buying a gun in Washington State passes the same background check, no matter where they buy the gun and no matter whom they buy it from.”

A bald faced lie. It only makes sure that the state can penalize people that they catch who buy or sell or transfer guns without a background check. It is a crucial difference, the difference between what a law does, and what its proponents say that they want it to do.


7 posted on 10/28/2014 5:20:47 AM PDT by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: WhiskeyX
Would not waste time detailing the finer points of how this proposed law is defective.

It is nothing more than another gun grab. It sucks, and so do those that wish to continually foist their bullshit on the citizenry of this country.

8 posted on 10/28/2014 7:21:29 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: WhiskeyX
If this passes and is signed into law.... ~sigh~ Well, you get the government you deserve.
9 posted on 10/28/2014 10:07:13 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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To: snowtigger
First I-594 is a bad law that I voted against. I worked hard to convince others to vote against it as well.

I would like to say that I agree that the gun show loophole is not a big problem. There are DOJ studies that show that less than 1% of convicted felons get their firearms from gunshows. Also in this State the Washington Arms Collectors has its own screening process before a person can become a member. Only members can sell or buy firearms at WAC gunshows. To become a member one has to either pass the same WA State Patrol quick criminal background check that schools use to check out visitors or present a valid concealed carry license (aka good guy card). So if there is such a thing as a private sale loophole which gun shows exploit, it isn't a big deal in WA State.

Having said that, there are some disturbing internet sites that I have to say I wonder about. I have placed bids on Gunbroker and think that they do a good job. However, I am not so sure about ArmsBroker, which allows you to click on your state and private sales. Some of the sellers require a CPL, which I think is smart for someone you don't know. Others look a little sketchier. Still I understand that a private sale is a private sale, and I as a conservative person can want some assurances that anyone I sell a firearm to is not a criminal, but also understand that not everyone may be as concerned as I am.

http://www.armslist.com/classifieds/search?location=washington&category=handguns&sellertype=1

10 posted on 10/29/2014 6:38:21 PM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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