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To: relictele

This is an honest question...what would you consider to be constitutionally valid, and also effective, method(s) that police may take to remove DUI/DWI drivers from public roads?


13 posted on 10/27/2014 10:19:11 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: chajin
This is an honest question...what would you consider to be constitutionally valid, and also effective, method(s) that police may take to remove DUI/DWI drivers from public roads?

That's easy... PROBABLE CAUSE.

25 posted on 10/27/2014 10:28:38 AM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: chajin; All
This is an honest question...what would you consider to be constitutionally valid, and also effective, method(s) that police may take to remove DUI/DWI drivers from public roads?

Uh, maybe when someone actually commits a traffic offense? Then the police may legitimately pull them over, administer a sobriety test IF THEY HAVE PROBABLE CAUSE...mull that phrase over. Otherwise, they have NO BUSINESS pulling over innocent American citizens, period!
26 posted on 10/27/2014 10:28:38 AM PDT by notdownwidems (Washington DC has become the enemy of free people everywhere)
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To: chajin
This is an honest question...what would you consider to be constitutionally valid, and also effective, method(s) that police may take to remove DUI/DWI drivers from public roads?

In United States criminal law, probable cause is the standard by which an officer or agent of the law has the grounds to obtain a warrant for, or as an exception to the warrant requirements for, making an arrest or conducting a personal or property search, etc. when criminal charges are being considered. It is also used to refer to the standard to which a grand jury believes that a crime has been committed. This term comes from the Fourth Amendment of the United States Constitution:

52 posted on 10/27/2014 11:07:46 AM PDT by Lockbox
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To: chajin
This is an honest question...what would you consider to be constitutionally valid, and also effective, method(s) that police may take to remove DUI/DWI drivers from public roads?

All the kings horses asses have done NOTHING to get DUI off the road. If they crash, throw the book at them. If they don't, no problem. Innocent till crime is committed is how it works.

59 posted on 10/27/2014 12:11:19 PM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: chajin

There is no effective method in place as it is now. According to MADD’s website, 300,000 people drive drunk every day; 4,000 are arrested each day, resulting in 1.2 million arrests each year and 30 die each day. According to the CDC, the “annual cost” (whatever that includes) is $59Bil. That’s not control of a problem.

Computers in cars can already recognize erratic driving and On-Star (Lojack?) can shut vehicles down - so let’s take technology one step further and free the cops up to do other types of crimefighting at the same time.

I’d suggest the most effective method of control would be to toss the issue back to the auto manufacturers/salesyards and make breathalizers in autos (and planes and trains and motorcycles) as commonplace as air conditioning and power brakes. (key-fob based even?) With mandatory retrofits on saleslots on older models via government voucher. No blow, no start. Drive erratically, computer starves the gas to a slow stall. Calibrate annually at smog check. Could use of in-vehicle techology be more cost effective and focused than the easter-egg hunting policies in place now, and help protect constitutional rights while reinforcing driving isn’t?

http://www.madd.org/statistics/
http://www.cdc.gov/motorvehiclesafety/impaired_driving/impaired-drv_factsheet.html


65 posted on 10/27/2014 1:09:08 PM PDT by blueplum
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What “common sense” measure would you support to remove drugs from our society?

Feel free to compare and contrast “random automobile stops” for DUI and “random house searches” comlete with canine search for illegal drugs.


70 posted on 10/27/2014 3:13:36 PM PDT by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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