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To: Fishing-guy

As far as I know, every manufacturer allows you to custom order and build a vehicle (it’s easiest on-line). Autos are high maintenance. You really want to send it back to the manufacturer when something odd happens with it?


13 posted on 10/25/2014 9:06:59 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: jjotto

Years ago, I went to a dealer to order a car with specific color and interior. Nope, won’t do it. Maybe things have changed.

There will always be dealerships around, because they make most of their money on maintenance and repair and used car sales.


17 posted on 10/25/2014 9:14:11 AM PDT by Fishing-guy
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To: jjotto

I used to work for a major Ford dealership here in Michigan. The owner drove a Jaguar. Despite the fact that his Ford dealership had garage, body shop, service center taking up half the block, I still drove his Jag to the Jaguar dealership in Grand Rapids for even minor things like oil changes.

He told me that he trusted his mechanics but they were certified Ford Mechanics. He would have hired a certified Jag mechanic but there simply weren’t enough Jags in the county to make it worth keeping one on the payroll. In the 1990s, for him to have a certified Jaguar service center would have required him to open it as a separate business from his Ford Dealership and his used car dealership. Only a fool would spend hundreds of thousands to open a business that might get 2 or 3 customers per month.


20 posted on 10/25/2014 9:26:02 AM PDT by cripplecreek (You can't half ass conservatism.)
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To: jjotto; Graybeard58; cripplecreek; SpeakerToAnimals; hoosierham; Beagle8U; All
“As far as I know, every manufacturer allows you to custom order and build a vehicle (it’s easiest on-line). Autos are high maintenance. You really want to send it back to the manufacturer when something odd happens with it?” -jjotto

I think you misunderstand what Tesla is trying to do. Here is a map of what they have done so far (red is current, gray is “coming soon”... notice the blank space over Michigan):

http://www.teslamotors.com/findus#/bounds/55,-70,15,-115,d?search=service

Tesla wants to run their *own* dealerships (complete with service centers and everything) instead of franchising them out. They believe that a franchisee that might also own other dealerships selling gasoline-powered cars would do a poor job of advocating the benefits of electric cars, since such a dealer would have mostly gasoline-powered inventory.

What this Michigan law has done is prevent Tesla from opening up local dealerships and service centers in Michigan using their manufacturer-owned business model.

“I read the article rather rapidly and maybe my question was addressed and I missed it but how does Tesla handle “trade ins” without dealerships being involved? Not allowed?” -Graybeard58

Tesla wants to run their own dealerships where all that kind of stuff would be handled. As far as you, the customer, is concerned it would be just like any other dealership except that the salespeople would not get paid based on commissions. Tesla is doing this in other states and this new law in Michigan ensures that it can't do it there, unfortunately.

“Prior to the change, automakers were required to sell through their own franchises. Now they can sell through any franchise. Ford can sell through Mercedes, Chevy can sell through a Toyota franchise. (Tesla needs lots of techs to fix the cars before any franchise will sell them)” -cripplecreek

Riiiiiight... so *that* was the point. I'm sure Ford and Toyota and Mercedes were all just waiting to hold hands and sell each others’ cars. /s

Posting images of the governor's baloney explanation proves nothing. Of course he doesn't want to admit that the only reason the law was changed was to ensure Tesla is locked out of Michigan.

“Its ridiculous to believe what has become a very de-regulatory legislature under a very liberal ‘green jobs’ republican would suddenly change direction to regulate Tesla out of the state.” -cripplecreek

It is ridiculous until you look at all the money that Joe Hune and Rick Snyder get in campaign donations from the dealers’ associations.

“I used to work for a major Ford dealership here in Michigan.” -cripplecreek

That explains a lot.

36 posted on 10/25/2014 10:37:54 AM PDT by LogicDesigner
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To: jjotto
Autos are high maintenance. You really want to send it back to the manufacturer when something odd happens with it?

That's the argument the dealer-twits make to the public when they aren't busy paying off the pols.

It might even be a valid argument for some or all cars. But the place to make it is in the market, not in the legislature.

It Tesla can be successful with its direct-to-consumer business model, then, by definition it is in the right! Screw the law! Screw the corrupt government!

66 posted on 10/26/2014 2:35:06 AM PDT by cynwoody
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