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Ebola in the Big Apple and Common Sense in Short Supply
American Thinker ^ | 10/24/2014 | Brian C Joondeph, MD

Posted on 10/24/2014 7:56:03 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

So much for Ebola being under control, limited to Western Africa, and not a threat to the American homeland. There is now a new confirmed case in New York City, with three others in quarantine. Doctor Craig Spencer, recently confirmed with Ebola, works for Doctors Without Borders, and was providing medical and humanitarian relief to Ebola victims in Western Africa.

He returned to the US from Guinea almost a week before exhibiting first symptoms of infection. Arriving at JFK airport on October 17, he cleared the CDC’s protocol for “enhanced screening of all returning travelers from W. Africa.” No quarantine, either voluntary or mandatory. He is just one of many going through similar “enhanced screenings” at US airports on a daily basis.

Testifying before Congress last week, Obama administration officials, “admitted that 100 to 150 West Africans from Ebola infected areas are entering the US every day.” How many others might be in the early stages of Ebola infection, similar to Dr. Spencer?

Missing is the common sense role of quarantine. Not a novel idea. Quarantines were used in the 1700’s in New York for new immigrants, “To prevent the bringing in and spreading of infectious distempers in the colony.” Within three weeks, this infection plays itself out and those quarantined can be released with a high probability of non-infection. Why wasn’t Dr. Spencer in a quarantine, especially after having returned from the “hot zone” in West Africa, himself working with Ebola patients? As a physician, shouldn’t he have known that he could be infectious? Why not self-exile for a few weeks fulfilling his duty to “first do no harm”?

What about the hundred plus entering the US every day who are not physicians and cannot be expected to know better?

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: ebola; newyork
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1 posted on 10/24/2014 7:56:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind; neverdem; ProtectOurFreedom; Mother Abigail; EBH; vetvetdoug; Smokin' Joe; ...
Bring Out Your Dead

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

So far the false positive rate is 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

2 posted on 10/24/2014 7:57:04 AM PDT by null and void ("Agoraphobia": fear of the marketplace; "AlGoreaphobia": fear of the marketplace of ideas.)
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To: null and void

If he came back 10 or 11 days ago, the CDC’s new protocol was not in place at the airport. How many inaccuracies are there in this article?


3 posted on 10/24/2014 7:58:47 AM PDT by Ingtar (The NSA - "We're the only part of government who actually listens to the people.")
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To: SeekAndFind
Missing is the common sense role of quarantine. Not a novel idea. Quarantines were used in the 1700’s in New York for new immigrants, “To prevent the bringing in and spreading of infectious distempers in the colony.” Within three weeks, this infection plays itself out and those quarantined can be released with a high probability of non-infection. Why wasn’t Dr. Spencer in a quarantine, especially after having returned from the “hot zone” in West Africa, himself working with Ebola patients? As a physician, shouldn’t he have known that he could be infectious? Why not self-exile for a few weeks fulfilling his duty to “first do no harm”?

What about the hundred plus entering the US every day who are not physicians and cannot be expected to know better?

All good questions.....

4 posted on 10/24/2014 7:59:31 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Bellevue Hospital is that were they take the Nut cases ?


5 posted on 10/24/2014 8:02:32 AM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: Ingtar

Eh? What’s that you say??? They LIE?!?!??


6 posted on 10/24/2014 8:03:22 AM PDT by null and void ("Agoraphobia": fear of the marketplace; "AlGoreaphobia": fear of the marketplace of ideas.)
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To: SeekAndFind; All

ANY medical worker who acts like this ought to lose their license and be prevented from ‘practising’ ever again. Just like Snyderman and Vinson this yob decides that he knows better. Well thanks for nothing.

The title has it all....COMMON SENSE is all to uncommon.

Impose a travel ban and quarantine those who are here who have been exposed


7 posted on 10/24/2014 8:12:26 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: SeekAndFind
Quarantine our politicos and their czars at Gitmo.

“Society in every state is a blessing, but government even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one; for when we suffer, or are exposed to the same miseries by a government, which we might expect in a country without government, our calamity is heightened by reflecting that we furnish the means by which we suffer…”

― Thomas Paine, Common Sense

--That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

8 posted on 10/24/2014 8:12:43 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: SeekAndFind
Doctors Without Borders Brains
9 posted on 10/24/2014 8:13:58 AM PDT by Right Brother
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m of mixed feelings here. Yes, Ebola is bad in a big city.

On the other hand, goodbye hipsters. Pity this guy didn’t have a one-night-stand with Lena Dunham. . . (evil grin)


10 posted on 10/24/2014 8:34:08 AM PDT by Salgak (Peace through Superior Firepower. . . .)
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To: Ingtar
Not sure that the article its incorrect.. the new protocol was you must enter via the five airports that have screening..

That does not meet the screening was not up an in place an NY beforehand...

It just meant you could get around it before ...

It would be normal to have a your prototype system up and running before hand (a beta test) before you lock the door and make it mandatory...

what this does point out is bug/holes in the screen process

11 posted on 10/24/2014 8:56:09 AM PDT by tophat9000 (An Eye for an Eye, a Word for a Word...nothing more)
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To: 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...
Ping...

A link to this thread has been posted on the Ebola Surveillance Thread

12 posted on 10/24/2014 8:57:34 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Right Brother

Doctors Without Diplomas.


13 posted on 10/24/2014 9:00:24 AM PDT by Manic_Episode (GOP = The Whig Party)
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To: Right Brother

Doctors without borders is an influential group and they are probably influencing protocols in the US for treating Obola. Only problem is, from what we have seen and heard, they are not doing such a great job of protecting themselves from Ebola.


14 posted on 10/24/2014 9:02:30 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Right Brother

Welcome to NYC: Hotels Without Boarders.


15 posted on 10/24/2014 9:31:52 AM PDT by franzpick
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To: SeekAndFind

Don’t take the E train.

All seriousness aside, the risk is negligible, but didn’t need to arise at all.


16 posted on 10/24/2014 9:46:53 AM PDT by Boundless (Survive Obamacare by not needing it.)
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To: Ingtar

http://www.komonews.com/news/national/US-agents-ordered-to-monitor-travelers-for-Ebola-278523031.html

Recheck your data. The TSA began checking temps at JFK on Oct. 11. Six days later, Spencer arrived in the US on the 17th. He passed the temp test with flying colors just like Duncan probably would have. Even Vinson was cleared to travel after reporting a temp (funny the CDC lowered their limit of 101.5 to 100.5 immediately during the Vinson debacle). Top that with 13% don’t get a fever and the CDC has another major fail on their hands.


17 posted on 10/24/2014 10:02:13 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Nifster

The nurse who ruined 4000 people’s cruise should also have your license yanked.

Anyone coming from the hot zone needs to be REALLY quarantined for 45 days, not asked to pinky swear to stay off public transportation and no bowling or soup runs.


18 posted on 10/24/2014 10:10:23 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Nifster

Which one is Snyderman? The name sounds familiar.


19 posted on 10/24/2014 6:18:04 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The mods stole my tagline.)
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To: bgill; Nifster
The nurse who ruined 4000 people’s cruise should also have your license yanked.

Aaaahhhh, that Snyderman . . .

20 posted on 10/24/2014 6:18:55 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The mods stole my tagline.)
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