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Isn't concealed carry a critical weapon in the fight against domestic ISIS attacks?

Posted on 10/24/2014 6:52:26 AM PDT by Maceman

It seems to me that concealed carry is one of the most critical ways of protecting lives given the new "normal" of "lone wolf" Islamist terrorist attacks.

I wonder that I haven't heard the NRA and concealed carry groups start to argue that point. Why aren't they pushing for the "homeland security" that would be greatly enhanced by average citizens keeping watchful eyes and carrying concealed weapons, almost as a civic responsibility?


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1 posted on 10/24/2014 6:52:26 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: Maceman

Of course - why else do you think they wan’t to be rid of it?


2 posted on 10/24/2014 7:02:52 AM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot"d vo)
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CCW is only part of the equation. Sadly there are many ccw holders that aren’t situationally aware and never get the training necessary to use their weapon effectively. That and many don’t have the right mind set. That is, they’re not mentally prepared to pull the trigger if necessary. Your most important weapon is between your ears not in your holster.


3 posted on 10/24/2014 7:03:24 AM PDT by 556x45
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You are laboring under the delusion that Obala wants to prevent domestic Musloid attacks.
4 posted on 10/24/2014 7:04:33 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Any energy source that requires a subsidy is, by definition, "unsustainable.")
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To: 556x45
CCW is only part of the equation.

Of course it is only part of the equation. But it is a CRITICAL part of the equation.

5 posted on 10/24/2014 7:05:09 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: Maceman

Same element as is a factor with reduced criminal activity -

they don’t know who’s armed and who’s not.

I’m not sure about their “rules”, but I think they actually have to kill someone other than themselves in their act of jihad to be assured of paradise.

Of course, widely spreading the rumor that CCHL people store their ammo with a light coating of bacon grease would go a long way toward deterring sudden jihad syndrome.


6 posted on 10/24/2014 7:08:04 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Maceman

In light of recent events, it appears so. Therefore, you are free to draw the obvious conclusion that for the political purpose of disarming the masses, gun control advocates want us undefended, therefore dead.

This raises another question, if someone wants you dead are they your mortal enemy?


7 posted on 10/24/2014 7:08:29 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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While CC is always a good idea for personal protection, there are still relatively few people who carry daily. Homeland security should be doing more to find and monitor and arrest or deport them before the attack. But then Obama doesn’t see lone terrorist attacks as a problem so the DHS doesn’t either.


8 posted on 10/24/2014 7:09:37 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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Of course it’s the most effective means of thwarting surprise attacks in public. Remember, the first two attacks happened in the gun-free zones of New York and Ottawa. I suspect the national pro-freedom organizations are leery of appearing to incite vigilantism. Perhaps rightly so if their message isn’t carefully crafted.

TC


9 posted on 10/24/2014 7:10:56 AM PDT by Pentagon Leatherneck
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Disagree. Having a firearm is the least of all constituent requirements. A FA is of little to no use if youre missing training, situational awareness and mental preparation. Whats between the ears > whats in the holster.


10 posted on 10/24/2014 7:11:34 AM PDT by 556x45
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To: Maceman

Damn straight.


11 posted on 10/24/2014 7:12:52 AM PDT by FreedomFighter1013 ("Obama to go full Mussolini after [Nov. 4] elections": Mark Levin)
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To: 556x45
Having a firearm is the least of all constituent requirements. A FA is of little to no use if youre missing training, situational awareness and mental preparation. Whats between the ears > whats in the holster.

Well of course training, situational awareness and mental preparation are critical. In most states, you need training to get permit.

12 posted on 10/24/2014 7:14:52 AM PDT by Maceman
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Absolutely!

I had an incident which required a certain person be arrested earlier this week.

I was down the street from my house and was called. I was asked not to come home as the police had been called.

Two minutes later I was at the house and waited, while this jackass, in his drunken stupor, pounded on the door and cussed loudly, at 1230 in the am.

so long as he didn’t enter I felt I should be patient. Not what I wanted to but, understood the request, because my response would have been disastrous for the drunken A-hole.

5 minutes later the cops showed up.

it bothers me to think what would have happened if I had to act on this moron.

In an active shooter situation the cops would similarly be minutes away, when I could end the ensuing carnage.

The citizen has an absolute right to defend their life and must act in that moment, while the police would show up after the fact.

it is a fact that the constitution of every state has, as an article of personal right, the right to defend oneself, in the face of danger, by any means and that includes the use of a firearm, which I possess.

the responsible citizen should be prepared to defend their life and that of loved ones and the innocent.

being in a position of “now”, who is best capable of ending or preventing carnage?

I should add I would not have needed a firearm that night to end that persons aggression but, what if?


13 posted on 10/24/2014 7:18:35 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: 556x45

True but, having nothing or the means to end someone’s intent shouldn’t be a bar to defense.


14 posted on 10/24/2014 7:21:15 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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You say ‘of course’ but I wager most ccw holders arent prepared at many levels. I think though youre not getting this at all. State mandated training is at the very best least common denominator. You really need far more beyond that. Im certain mandated training doesnt go into mental preparation at all.


15 posted on 10/24/2014 7:22:06 AM PDT by 556x45
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That’s what calling 911 is for.

When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.


16 posted on 10/24/2014 7:23:06 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: 556x45

What’s your point?


17 posted on 10/24/2014 7:23:27 AM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: TomGuy

Would you really bet your life on that situation ???
I live in Westchester Co. N.Y. and a call to police might take 20 or more minutes to get to my house, if he was in North Salem, and I’m in Somers.


18 posted on 10/24/2014 7:31:57 AM PDT by chatham
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Not really. A terrorist attack tends to be an isolated 9i.e. few people and usually one), explosive event. It’s over before it is over. Concealed or open carry is pretty much irrelevant in those situations.


19 posted on 10/24/2014 7:38:01 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: NorthMountain

If you missed them to this point I doubt repeating is going to help.


20 posted on 10/24/2014 7:41:05 AM PDT by 556x45
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