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Kenya Catholic Bishops criticise Tetanus vaccinations (Tetanus Vaccine Sterilize Women)
NEWS.VA ^ | 10.10.2014

Posted on 10/22/2014 6:24:38 PM PDT by Coleus

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To: Bullpine
it is targeted to women of childbearing age to prevent neonatal tetanus, a common problem in Africa where often moms "treat" the umbillical cord stump with an herbal concoction. I've seen these kids die, and our Catholic hospital in Africa gave all pregnant woman a tetanus shot or a series if they hadn't received it as kids.

The UN statistics say 58 thousand babies die of neonatal tetanus in 2010, but note that since many are home births far from hospitals, that the death rate is probably

And for all the posters noting the decrease of fertility in some countries, they don't ask if this is the mom's choice or if there is an epidemic of infertility. I suspect the latter: Given a choice, no woman wants a baby every year or two. Even here in the Philippines, where family planning isn't paid for by the gov't, the average fertility rate has gone down from 6 kids per woman to 2.5. Of course, some of this is due to natural family planning,or because they are buying the pills on their own, but some is due to women seeing "hilots" for herbs to abort their kids. But no one wants to talk about it.

21 posted on 10/24/2014 7:14:37 PM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
they are working on it, but how come none of us doctors on the front line know about it, know that it it is being done, are using it, or even seeing women complaining of infertility?

It sounds like the bishops are mixing up their shots with the birth control shot e.g. DepoProvera

If the HCG vaccine was being used, there would be a lot of studies about it in the medical literature, but there simply hasn't been much published in the last 20 years. There would also be a "paper trail" to companies making the vaccine.

the only papers after the mid 1990's about anti HCG type vaccines are articles saying that the vaccines are being investigated to see if they could turn off sex hormones for prostate cancer, but they are weak and don't work well at turning off the sex hormone as other medicine.. LINK

22 posted on 10/24/2014 7:28:00 PM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I took anti-hormones to shrink my endometriosis so I could get pregnant.

It costs 200 dollars a shot. And it caused lots of side effects: Depression, hot flashes, lethargy. And I needed to repeat the shot every month.

They also give it to my men with prostate cancer, warning them about the side effects, and noting that they would be getting a much higher dosage to shrink their cancer.

So the answer is: Why use an expensive shot that needs to be given every month to work?

as for the midwife question: Trained midwives sterilize their scissors, and many countries (Sudan, Liberia, Afghanistan) have programs to train the untrained midwives on safe childbirth.

In Africa, some tribes insist relatives deliver the baby, and in a lot of other places, even after the cord is cut and a dressing placed on the stump, when mom goes home, grandmom decides to take them off and use local herbs or clay treatment.


23 posted on 10/24/2014 7:38:27 PM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: LadyDoc; Black Agnes
As I understand it (and you may have better info here) hCG is secreted by the early embryo, from pre-impantation up through more mature development, not by the mother. IN other words it is not a maternal hormone ptoperly so called,, buta baby hormone secreted by the growing zygote-embryo-fetus to initiate and to maintain implantation.

Therefore an anti-hCG drug wouldn't necessarily have any health effect on the mother directly, it would mainly cause her to develop antibodies which would attack the embryo, which is to say, she would have an immune reaction that counteracts the embryo's hCG and therefore disrupts implantation.

Am I right?

And β-hCG is used in the Philippines, Nicaragua and Mexico as a birth control method, am I right?

Now tell me: is there any way to get an effective tetanus shot without the shot being laced with β-hCG? Or is it right that the price of tetanus vaccination would be abortifacient immunity to all your subsequent offspring?

I don't want to misunderstand you with any false assumption, but you seem to write as if early abortions by hormonal disruption are not morally problematic.

From a public health point of view, it would be much better --- would it not? --- to use a Tetanus shot which has no abortifacient side-effects, and a birth control method which is fully reversible, under the control of individual women themselves, without side effects, and not pushed on them by the "motivating" or coercive power of the State?

24 posted on 10/25/2014 7:11:45 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Point of informaton.)
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I have another question:

Have tetanus shots always contained beta hcg, or is this a ‘new’ thing?

When did it become a ‘new’ thing and why...?

Knowing that the shots may cause infertility would cause me to avoid them for my young daughters, is this the effect that public health officials want?


25 posted on 10/25/2014 7:18:25 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: LadyDoc

Question at #25 is also for you.


26 posted on 10/25/2014 7:26:03 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Point of informaton.)
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PING!


27 posted on 11/11/2014 5:11:32 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The mods stole my tagline.)
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