Posted on 10/22/2014 12:06:53 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
FORT WORTH, Texas — The family of the first Ebola victim to die in the United States says the hospital that cared for him has refused for weeks to release lab results showing the effects of an experimental drug treatment, fanning their suspicions that the facility mishandled the case.
They believe that information is being withheld, along with additional medical records, by Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital Dallas, where Thomas Eric Duncan died Oct. 8....
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I'm sure you're right about the lawyer. No matter what the results were they would use them to make some kind of case. If his labs became worse - even if it was because of the natural progression of the disease - the attorneys would say that the experimental drug killed him. If his labs got better they would likely claim this as proof that he could have been saved if he'd received treatment earlier. If the labs didn't change at all, the attorneys would say that the hospital wasted valuable time ‘experimenting’ with an unproven drug, while other patients got different treatments and did better.
I am really sick of these Liberian scum. I would send ICE there to see how many are legal. Liberians are #5 on the DoS list of visa overstays. Think if how many nations that puts them ahead of. That equates to over 100,000 illegal aliens. Deport them.
No, her family denied that she had Ebola. No one really knew otherwise until others got sick in the neighborhood.
In Africa, people die a lot. One of every seven women dies of pregnancy complications. Infectious diseases kill millions every year. With so many ways to die young in Africa, most people there do not even consider Ebola when someone gets sick. Even in the areas hardest hit, many don't believe Ebola is real--they think it's just a government plot.
“No, her family denied that she had Ebola. No one really knew otherwise until others got sick in the neighborhood.”
Is that why Duncan tried to get her admitted to the local Ebola clinic?
Nice try, but the lier Duncan knew exactly what she had and is why he dropped everything and came to the US as fast as he could. His co-workers said as much, and they all knew he had been exposed.
Those people need to shut up and be glad they’re still alive.
IIRC, the questions asked are about exposure to illness in general, not just ebola.
Sorry I don’t have time to look it up at the moment.
You’re right. Now only was he not a citizen, he lied to get his visa and planned to stay here illegally.
His nephew from Salisbury, NC said his uncle told him he was going to get four jobs when he got here and get rich. Duncan was going to stay here illegally - the same way thousands of illegals from Liberia are doing it now.
Not the illegal foreigners from africa, you say?
Hmmm.
A spouse may be entitled to the records but not a sister.
Yes, it appears they will sue no matter what.
If I didn’t feel so badly for the president and people of LIberia, I would suggest sending that whole tribe back. However, I think it would be appropriate to relocate them to Chicago, say the South Side. Hyde Park in particular.
right. Her family didn’t tell the neighbors until after the girl died.
The neighbors had no way of knowing what was going on, but Duncan accompanied the family, according to the LA times article below, to two different ebola units, apparently a day-long process. I’m not sure I’m buying that Duncan wasn’t aware of the destinations, made no inquiries on behalf of the family to entice them to admit the sick woman, or even asked himself why two ebola units (or, take away that, why two hospitals) would turn away the convulsing pregnant woman in obvious distress he was carrying in his arms?
From a Oct 2, LA Times article:
“Duncan had ridden in [the] taxi... as they crisscrossed the...capital...going from a clinic to two hospitals, trying to get her admitted. With them were her father, Emmanuel, and brother Sonny Boy...From the clinic, where she was given an intravenous drip but deteriorated sharply, they were sent to an Ebola treatment unit and then another, at a time when there were no Ebola beds available....After hours of waiting, evening fell. They gave up and went home....”
http://www.latimes.com/world/africa/la-fg-ebola-liberia-20141003-story.html
You do realize that those hospitals existed long before the Ebola outbreak? They are not “Ebola units”, they are regular hospitals. One of the big problems with the Ebola outbreak is that the hospitals are so busy dealing with Ebola patients that they cannot care for other patients. People are dying from a lot of causes because they cannot get the healthcare they need due to the hospitals being full with Ebola patients. Liberia has a really bad healthcare system at the best of times.
The fact that Duncan helped this family try unsuccessfully to find health care for the woman does not mean that he had any idea what was wrong with her.
I’ve seen different questionnaires.
I think that Duncan did not know the woman was sick, and thought she had complications from pregnancy (which is not unusual in Africa). So he would have answered negatively even if asked about being around someone who was sick.
The questions definitely need to be written very carefully.
I saw today that people originating from one of the affected countries will have to be monitored for 21 days.
It was a local hospital, not an "Ebola clinic." He thought she had complications from pregnancy--that's what her family thought. And since it is not unusual for pregnant women to have complications and to die from them in Africa due to their really bad healthcare system, he had no reason to think anything else was going on.
Even at the epicenter of the outbreak, Ebola is rare. And other conditions that kill people are common.
The reports at the time said it was an ebola clinic. There are nothing but lies associated with this Duncan creep.
The reports were wrong.
I have nothing further to say to someone who blames the victim of a horrible disease for getting sick. I hope that if you are similarly sick with a deadly disease, you are the recipient of as much charity and sympathy as you have shown Duncan.
It saddens me to see so much racism expressed here.
He wasn’t as victim, he was a criminal, facing charges both in Tx and Liberia for reckless conduct, endangering the public, and would have been murder as well if one of those nurses die.
He knew what he had , and was only thinking of himself. To hell with the US and its citizens.
The bleeding hearts that keep calling this selfish criminal a victim make me sick.
Stick your racist comments, no one said anything about race except you.
So, you would support rounding up all Ebola survivors in Africa and executing them for murder, because of the hundreds of health care workers who got Ebola from them and died?
He wasn’t as victim, he was a criminal, facing charges both in Tx and Liberia for reckless conduct, endangering the public, and would have been murder as well if one of those nurses die.
And you know, before you have any symptoms, every time you get sick?
The timeline makes it pretty clear that he did not know he was exposed. I certainly doubt he was planning to be exposed to Ebola when he quit his job on Sept. 4 and started making his arrangements to come to the US.
And, sorry, I don't put a lot of credence in political posturing. Those politicians who made those big announcements that they were going to prosecute this unfortunate sick man were engaging in political theater, much like Jesse Jackson did when he went down there to race bait. There is not a shred of evidence that Mr. Duncan knew that the woman he helped had Ebola, and no particular reason for him to even be suspicious of it until he got a fever. Even in Monrovia, the risk of getting Ebola is pretty low.
The reason I think you are being racist is that you keep insisting, without any proof, that Mr. Duncan purposely got sick with Ebola and came here intending to make others sick. Would you have that same belief if Mr. Duncan were white or Asian? I have my doubts.
It is crystal clear that he knew he was exposed, and likely infected before he ever left Liberia, many witnesses have so stated. He lied on his exit papers to the authorities in Liberia, and this is a crime.
You can believe whatever lies make you feel good, it doesn’t change the truth.
ANYONE that endangers another person’s life is in the wrong. When they break multiple laws doing it and it results in the death of an innocent, it is criminal homicide.
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