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HHS-Funded Study: Obamacare Will Suffer ‘Death Spiral’ If Subsidies Fail
The Daily Caller ^ | October 21, 2014 | by Sarah Hurtubise

Posted on 10/21/2014 7:39:37 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

The Obama administration has funded a new study by top consulting firm RAND Health that startlingly finds that if taxpayer subsidies are eliminated, Obamacare exchanges will fall into a “death spiral.”

The study comes in the wake of a number of lawsuits which are challenging the Obama administration’s implementation of Obamacare subsidies. Three lawsuits have made it to U.S. Circuit Courts, just one step from the Supreme Court, arguing that the text of the Affordable Care Act allows premium subsidies for state-run exchanges only.

The report was sponsored by HHS’s Office of the Assistant Secretary for Planning and Evaluation, which, among other duties, compiles the enrollment statistics each month during open enrollment for Obamacare exchanges. Given the ongoing controversy over Obamacare subsidies, HHS sponsoring the study could be a sign that the administration is beginning to worry about its prospects.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; failure; obamacare; obamacaresubsidies; rinocare; socialism
Obamacare is working as designed.
1 posted on 10/21/2014 7:39:37 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Onward to single-payer.


2 posted on 10/21/2014 7:40:46 AM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: headstamp 2
Onward...Forward....


3 posted on 10/21/2014 7:45:04 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill)
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To: headstamp 2
Onward to single-payer.

Eggggzactly! Whichever way this goes Obola himself wins. Government mandated and controlled health care equals government control of everything human.

4 posted on 10/21/2014 7:49:17 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Obamacare Will Suffer ‘Death Spiral’ If Subsidies Fail

It will also suffer "death spiral" if the subsidies remain in force. It is fatally flawed from the get-go, the only question has been how fast it would fail.

5 posted on 10/21/2014 7:53:30 AM PDT by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
It was designed to fail, subsidies or not.
Single Payer was the real goal all along.

6 posted on 10/21/2014 8:00:55 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“The study comes in the wake of a number of lawsuits which are challenging the Obama administration’s implementation of Obamacare subsidies.”

“Let’s see, where did I put those John Roberts pictures?”....the president


7 posted on 10/21/2014 8:03:27 AM PDT by ryan71 (The Partisans)
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To: BitWielder1
It was designed to fail, subsidies or not.
Single Payer was the real goal all along.

Absolutely correct.
IIRC, several Congressmen flat-out stated that. (I seem to remember Nancy Pelosi being one of them.)

8 posted on 10/21/2014 8:15:11 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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It was designed to fail, subsidies or not. Single Payer was the real goal all along.

Absolutely correct. IIRC, several Congressmen flat-out stated that. (I seem to remember Nancy Pelosi being one of them.)

Indeed, the first iteration of Obamacare -- the one that passed Nancy Pelosi's House -- was expressly single-payer.

However, this version couldn't pass muster in the Senate -- chiefly because Connnecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman wouldn't go along with a bill that destroyed his home state's insurance industry.

His objections gave rise to the version of Obamacare that we have today.

9 posted on 10/21/2014 8:34:13 AM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance on parade.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

At which point the ensuing catastrophe will “require” the implementation of single payer.


10 posted on 10/21/2014 8:34:15 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: headstamp 2
Isn't Obamacare single payer in miniature? Why would the death spiral be anything but larger when involving the entire country?

Rhetorical questions...we all know the answers.

11 posted on 10/21/2014 8:45:45 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom (Liberalism: Promising Utopia - Delivering Detroit)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The Obama administration has funded a new study by top consulting firm RAND Health that startlingly finds that if taxpayer subsidies are eliminated, Obamacare exchanges will fall into a “death spiral.”

But, haven't we also heard that if Obamacare is continued, most non-governmental insurance plans will fall into a death spiral? I guess the conclusion is more general: Large government-mandated programs kill private enterprise.

12 posted on 10/21/2014 9:01:45 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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So, if I read this right the only thing the Republicans need to do to kill Obamacare is to not fund it according to the law. Only the states are allowed to fund this monstrosity. No back door deals. Ok folks lets keep a close eye on Congress.


13 posted on 10/21/2014 9:37:57 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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