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The Petro-States in Shambles Despite Obama
Townhall.com ^ | October 21 | John Ransom

Posted on 10/21/2014 5:16:54 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 10/21/2014 5:16:54 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Sooo,
Cheep oil destabelizes opec?
Good deal.
Love to see the saudi, “royals” thrown out like yesterdays cat box.


2 posted on 10/21/2014 5:24:16 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (The F.B.I. Is a division of holders Justice Dept. (Nuff said))
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To: Kaslin

Cheap oil is bad for Iran at least.


3 posted on 10/21/2014 5:24:30 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Kaslin

I have a question for anyone with some real insight into the oil business and oil politics. I understand the technology. It is the politics of the oil business that has me mystified.

QUESTION: How have we managed to grow the oil business and oil production in this country with the most anti-oil administration in the history of the world in power for nearly 6 years?


4 posted on 10/21/2014 5:26:08 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (Remember Mississippi)
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This is not good for those states that are imposing an extraction tax.


5 posted on 10/21/2014 5:27:05 AM PDT by Daveinyork ( Marbury vs.Madison was the biggest power grab in American history.)
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To: Kaslin

Perhaps they are willing to take the painful loss now rather than see further American oil industry improvements. The state of the art is advancing rapidly. If they don’t kill it off now it might be even more difficult later.


6 posted on 10/21/2014 5:28:25 AM PDT by conejo99
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To: Kaslin

The first sentence of this piece is the most twisted and confused thinking. Despite Obama having no energy policy? BECAUSE there is no government policy is the truth. Free market is finding a way? Markets don’t have to some how find a way. That is what inherently happens. Not despite no energy nonsense from the government but BECAUSE.


7 posted on 10/21/2014 5:28:47 AM PDT by all the best
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To: InterceptPoint

One salient point is that Obama realized the growth before it was manifest. I guess he had to accept the thoughts of some advisor on faith.

He used it to pacify his wacko base by attempting to mortally wound BP in the Gulf and continuing to develop excuse after excuse to delay the Keystone.


8 posted on 10/21/2014 5:35:47 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: Joe Boucher

The left and Obama pout and wonder what they have to do to finally wreck America. They run up crazy deficits, weight us down will regulations and laws, and flood us with uneducated illegal immigrants, but God gives us another opportunity. It isn’t time, yet, for us to fall.

It might be tomorrow, but not today.


9 posted on 10/21/2014 5:43:06 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty or Big Government - you can't have both.)
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The oil-rich kingdom has decided on a price war—a method that would be illegal in the United States

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Lowering prices below competition is illegal in the US? Since when?


10 posted on 10/21/2014 5:46:37 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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QUESTION: How have we managed to grow the oil business and oil production in this country with the most anti-oil administration in the history of the world in power for nearly 6 years?

The American hydraulic fracking revolution has occurred exclusively on private lands. So we have private property laws to thank. Obama was blindsided, by the time the administration realized what was happening, the shale oil revolution was in full bloom. Even the enviros haven't been able to stop it.

Imagine if public properties were opened for drilling, we would surely be independent of foreign oil imports.

We have another revolution on the way in natural gas, a byproduct of shale oil extraction, it's down about 15% in the last two months. This could have even more benefit to the economy, as natural gas is a prime feedstock for most manufacturing in this country.

11 posted on 10/21/2014 5:52:17 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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To: InterceptPoint

Some might wonder why the CEO of Total just suddenly died in a plane crash in Russia. He was a big proponent of not using Petroldollars.

No matter if it was an accident or the CIA..there are many who will believe it was the CIA.

The ensuing power shift is going to be interesting.


12 posted on 10/21/2014 5:56:02 AM PDT by RummyChick
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We’ve been told that the huge new fuel supplies will lessen the price. Basic economics. But, we’re also hearing hints that huge new supply will increase costs...eventually.

Pardon my skepticism, but I see elections looming, I see another drop in fuel at the pump costs, and I see someone giving so-called economics reasons why it’ll be low now and high later.

That was already my expectation, so this just feeds my cynicism. Low up to and for a while after an election. Prices rise back to normal starting about a quarter after the election.

That’s the election-cycle fuel-at-pump price cycle.

I’m so glad there’s an economics 101 answer for that repeated pattern.


13 posted on 10/21/2014 5:58:22 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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Low oil prices is good for our economy, and bad for Russia, Venezuala, the Gulf States (funding Islamofascism) and Iran. So essentially, low oil prices has benefits all around. When you base your whole economy on one product this is what can happen. Too bad, so sad. I suppose the only downside would be if the House of Saud fell and some radical group like ISIS took over. That would be extremely bad...


14 posted on 10/21/2014 5:58:59 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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Low oil prices is good for our economy, and bad for Russia, Venezuala, the Gulf States (funding Islamofascism) and Iran. So essentially, low oil prices has benefits all around. When you base your whole economy on one product this is what can happen. Too bad, so sad. I suppose the only downside would be if the House of Saud fell and some radical group like ISIS took over. That would be extremely bad...

Good points all.

Also, low fossil energy prices make it even harder for green tech--solar, wind, etc. The only downside here is that we the tax payers are the principal investors in green tech. Also coal industry gets slammed. Again. However the upsides far outweigh the downsides, as you point out.

15 posted on 10/21/2014 6:18:09 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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To: Kaslin

The lesson of Adam Smith is, as I have always said, is money is a wild animal. It doesn’t like fences, bridles, saddles, or crops. It will run for freedom every time!


16 posted on 10/21/2014 6:23:26 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: InterceptPoint

How? God is good and he has one hell of a sense of humor! LOL


17 posted on 10/21/2014 6:24:25 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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Because the oil won’t spoil sitting in the ground.

The writer is not a production engineer.

Once you shut in a well, getting former production rates back is not a sure thing.

That does not even address the problem of infrastructure and equipment sitting idle and deteriorating.

18 posted on 10/21/2014 6:31:01 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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How have we managed to grow the oil business and oil production in this country with the most anti-oil administration in the history of the world in power for nearly 6 years?

Privately owned mineral rights.

For instance, most of the area where the Bakken/Three Forks production is is private land, with privately owned mineral rights, not Federal Land.

19 posted on 10/21/2014 6:34:41 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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there is no down side to American energy independence. Make it happen!!


20 posted on 10/21/2014 6:43:31 AM PDT by armydawg505
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