Posted on 10/20/2014 12:55:55 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
I’m as pro-gun as anybody, but if they give felons rights to guns, are we going to give felons all other rights as well? This seems like liberal activism masquerading as conservatism.
“I wonder how many police officers will view this”... The SCOTUS case that is...
The arguments on televisions, by the talking heads, pundits, etcetera, will probably follow this: If you can’t do the “time” then don’t do the crime.
Followed by: is all “time” created equal (should some felons end up with a loss of gun rights and others - not so much?
That will probably be followed by: if some should have their gun rights restored, then should some have their voting rights restored?
Actually, the law as written says the Feds get to confiscate your guns without recompense if you're convicted of a felony. This guy is trying to either transfer ownership to his wife or sell them to his friends.
Read post #3.
Undoubtedly, some conservatives will say that he should have his right restored, with some saying no. That will be followed by some conservatives saying that it depends upon the felony - they will argue that if it wasn’t a violent crime then his gun rights should be restored.
And that will probably be followed by others saying that if some felonies shouldn’t result in a loss of gun rights, then voting rights in those same cases shouldn’t be upended.
Regardless of where you stand on this, buckle up!
Shall not be infringed.
We should roll back all the gun restrictions to about 1900.
Any man too dangerous to own a gun is a man too dangerous to walk the street. If he isn’t dangerous enough to imprison for life or execute, then he isn’t dangerous enough to strip of his rights upon serving his time.
People who support reasonable gun laws are what I call “reasonably stupid”.
What about felon disenfranchisement? All states except Vermont strip voting rights from felons. What about pedophiles? Do they have a right to work in schools or day care centers if they're otherwise qualified, once they've served their sentence? Where do you draw the line?
The flip side is that anti-gun ownership folks can dumb down what is called a felony so jay walking or a DUI and you can no longer own a gun -
Which will then lead to the question “What is the definition for “dangerous” in regards to “too dangerous”?
Followed by: If he serves his time, should he get his voting rights back? You know that will be asked...
This is going to cause a major can of worms to be opened up (as one can see the arguments that will be given with the counter arguments that will result), which I why I already said “buckle up” in post #5.
In my opinion, a felon should lose their gun rights for the time period post conviction and prior to either exoneration, pardon or completion of the full term of the sentence (i.e. parole does not count as serving the full sentence). Once the felon has served their time, all rights should be restored.
YIPPEEEEEE !!!
You seem to be describing.... probation
Once you have done your time (paid your debt to society) and there is no further claim against you, your basic God-given rights are restored IN FULL. This isn’t leftist, this is LOGIC.
No, probation or parole is time out of prison but not fully restored to citizenship. Once the person has served their full sentence - i.e. the WHOLE time, parole or probation does not count, they have then paid their debt to society. Once that is paid, they should be restored their full rights.
Like how people who are convicted of misdemeanors but since they’re “Domestic Violence” cases lose their rights like a felon.
Domestic Violence is a serious concern, but the courts have run roughshod with such cases.
Who knows how SCOTUS will end up on this. Who thought that Chief Justice John Roberts would vote how he did concerning Obamacare?
That was the exact example I was thinking of.
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