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No illness detected in Ebola patient's fiancee, family
WFAA ^ | 10/20/2014 | WFAA

Posted on 10/19/2014 6:49:36 PM PDT by Dallas59

Edited on 10/19/2014 7:12:41 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: disease; ebola; pityparty; raysisum
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To: exDemMom

Testing my understanding....Are you saying that Duncan was not afflicted until he was diagnosed?

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None of the family were in prolonged close contact with the index case.

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They (supposedly) lived in close quarters (apartment) for close to a week. I’d say that’s close and prolonged.

Also, I remember reading reports stating he’d slept in all of the beds. I imagine he would’ve used all (both, at most) bathrooms, too. Where did the others sleep, and use the bathroom?

Again....prolonged and close contact.


61 posted on 10/19/2014 8:45:31 PM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: Oliviaforever

the very same reason why if someone at your workplace has the flu, not everyone in the office gets the flu.


If someone at our workplace has the flu....at least one, or usually more, also get the flu. Every year :(

Just the odds. Amazing that not one family member came in contact with the infected furnishings, surfaces, etc. Lucky for them.


62 posted on 10/19/2014 8:49:12 PM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: 353FMG

that’s if we can even find the ebola czar, who missed another meeting.


63 posted on 10/19/2014 9:04:38 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: Jane Long
Testing my understanding....Are you saying that Duncan was not afflicted until he was diagnosed?

Ebola is generally considered to be contagious once symptoms appear. As the disease progresses, it becomes more contagious. Duncan was infected and contagious at the time he was admitted to the hospital. Samples were taken for testing, but test results were not received until two days later. According to the timelines, the nurses were not using proper PPE until he was officially diagnosed.

They (supposedly) lived in close quarters (apartment) for close to a week. I’d say that’s close and prolonged.

Also, I remember reading reports stating he’d slept in all of the beds. I imagine he would’ve used all (both, at most) bathrooms, too. Where did the others sleep, and use the bathroom?

Again....prolonged and close contact.

Prolonged close contact is spending time within 3 feet of the patient. Typically, this happens when a family member begins caring for the patient--washing, feeding, etc. He might have slept in the beds, but unless he was vomiting or having diarrhea in the beds, he is unlikely to have left any infectious bodily fluids in them. The toilets--it is possible that family members were avoiding using the same toilet. Or that they were bleaching everything.

In Africa, it is common for children who live in the same house as people who get and die from Ebola to not catch the disease themselves, because they do not have close contact with the patients.

64 posted on 10/19/2014 9:06:44 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Oliviaforever

The family was still there


65 posted on 10/19/2014 9:16:11 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (STOP flights and immigration from HOT Zones . . .NOW)
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To: Oliviaforever
I just wonder about Clay Jenkins was exposed to at some point in his life. As the two girls in Fargo said, "he's funny looking". And Jenkins' voice is very strange. Frankly, he seems at least mildly retarded.


66 posted on 10/19/2014 9:22:30 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

Yes, but it was known that they were not symptomatic and thus could not transmit a disease that they did not have.


67 posted on 10/19/2014 9:23:11 PM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: DannyTN; roadcat

It’s actually 42 days.


68 posted on 10/19/2014 9:24:48 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Oliviaforever

Supposedly, but would you have taken that risk?

Let’s not forget that Nina Pham and Amber Vinson also thought they were safe.


69 posted on 10/19/2014 9:31:42 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (STOP flights and immigration from HOT Zones . . .NOW)
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To: exDemMom

Their PPE was inadequate! Uncle Tom Friedan blamed (and is still covertly blaming ) it on that stupid breech of protocol. It was the LACK of adequate PPE!!!
The meme from my fellow RN’S should be a resounding: WE WANT WHAT YOU HAVE,TOM!


70 posted on 10/19/2014 9:34:27 PM PDT by R.I.chopper
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To: re_nortex

Why is it necessary to append her picture to this post?

How does it contribute in any way to your point?


71 posted on 10/19/2014 9:38:13 PM PDT by pleasedontzotme
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To: Dallas59

They didn’t detect any problem with Tom “Ground Zero” Duncan either at his first doctor’s appointment.
So he went about schmoozing Americans until he got sick as a parrot, and now he’s as dead as disco.


72 posted on 10/19/2014 9:46:27 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: steve86

Which means if we have a travel ban, we can avoid a lot of unnecessary expense and headaches.


73 posted on 10/19/2014 9:51:17 PM PDT by Kozak ("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
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To: pleasedontzotme
Why is it necessary to append her picture to this post? How does it contribute in any way to your point?

Senator Ted Cruz is a true Texan and genuine Patriot.


So, using your "logic", by appending that picture of Ted Cruz, my post's content is somehow diminished? Is that the way it works?
74 posted on 10/19/2014 9:52:07 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: re_nortex

No, I’m simply wondering why it was necessary to post her picture with your comment.


75 posted on 10/19/2014 9:53:37 PM PDT by pleasedontzotme
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To: pleasedontzotme
No, I’m simply wondering why it was necessary to post her picture with your comment.

Ah, okay. I may have been misreading a note of contention in your response. If you'll search my posting history, I frequently use graphics to supplement the textual content of what I write. The well-designed posting tool of Free Republic makes it so easy to add the IMG tag that it's almost second nature for me to do so.

To some extent, I can understand what I think may be your point. We've become such a visually-oriented society that well-written words alone don't capture a reader's attention and the addition of a graphic (be a chart, a person's likeness or a cartoon) is added as an enhancement.

76 posted on 10/19/2014 10:02:40 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: A_Former_Democrat
"I saw Pretty Boy Jenkins on the news today being interviewed. He looked like death warmed over.."


77 posted on 10/19/2014 10:27:00 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: Dallas59

she has declared herself obola free

how about a blood test?

There is no way she wrote that statement. How do we know they are even alive?


78 posted on 10/19/2014 10:30:54 PM PDT by Selene
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To: dandiegirl
Something fishy going on.

What are they called? Crisis Actors? Why not?

79 posted on 10/19/2014 11:38:38 PM PDT by MurrietaMadman
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To: A_Former_Democrat

“Supposedly, but would you have taken that risk?”

“Let’s not forget that Nina Pham and Amber Vinson also thought they were safe.”

I am not a medical professional, however, long before Duncan and Ebola came to the US, I knew that those who are in direct contact treating Ebola patients must have the entire bodies protected and have a process of removing the protective gear in a manner in which material that was contaminated does not touch any human skin.

The hospital in Dallas should have known that as well and protected their staff. The nurses were just doing their jobs, and refusal to do their jobs would have been grounds for termination.

As an elected official, Jenkins was simply doing his job by demonstrating to the public that there was no need for panic or hysteria as he could safely interact with people that may have been exposed to Ebola and even enter an environment where an Ebola patient once lived.

It is not uncommon for political leaders to take such actions. Two events that come to mind are Jimmy Carter going into the Three Mile Island Nuclear Plant after the accident. It may have been the only thing he did in office that was not counterproductive, but his message was that TMI was safe and there was no need to panic.

George W. Bush going to the WTC just days after the attack. He had several messages, the obvious message was to the terrorists and the slightly more subtle message was to Americans and was that NYC was safe.


80 posted on 10/20/2014 2:12:09 AM PDT by Oliviaforever
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