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Rove Agonistes Karl Rove’s metamorphosis into legend is now complete.
National Review Online ^ | 10/19/14 | Kevin Williamson

Posted on 10/19/2014 5:02:30 AM PDT by shuck and yall

NATIONAL REVIEW ONLINE www.nationalreview.com PRINT October 19, 2014 12:00 AM Rove Agonistes Karl Rove’s metamorphosis into legend is now complete. By Kevin D. Williamson

‘Karl Rove targets attorney general race in California.” “Who’s afraid of Kamala Harris? Karl Rove!” “Karl Rove Attacks — We Need Your Help!” Karl Rove’s starring role in the 2010 California attorney general’s race came as a surprise to Karl Rove, who wasn’t actually involved in that particular contest. This happens with him all the time. For the Left, Rove served for many years as the go-to bogeyman, the marquee name with which to conjure before Democrats discovered Charles and David Koch. “Karl Rove” was how the Left pronounced “Satan.”

What has been peculiar in the years since then is Rove’s transformation from left-wing hate totem to right-wing hate totem, an all-purpose villain whose name is used liberally by tea-party groups and conservative populists raising funds for races in which he has no involvement. On and on they go: “Don’t let Karl Rove squish Allen West!” “Gingrich: We can’t let Karl Rove and a bunch of billionaires handpick GOP candidates for Senate.”

That’s a whole lot of hate for the last guy to manage a winning Republican presidential campaign.

“I’m a myth,” Rove says, snorting. “I’d have to be a super being to have done everything that’s attributed to me.”

For Democrats and for a very vocal portion of the Right, it’s a game of six degrees of separation, or sometimes fewer degrees: This group ran an ad in this race, and one of its donors is linked to that group, which has a connection to Karl Rove. Most often, that group is American Crossroads or Crossroads GPS, where Rove serves as an unpaid adviser, general-purpose lightning rod, and political bull’s-eye. But even if one assumes that everything Crossroads does is a Karl Rove project by proxy, the myth of its torpedoing conservative primary challengers on behalf of the hated Establishment is not very well supported by the evidence: In 2012, Crossroads spent 99 percent of its funds on the general election, not in the primaries. Rove’s Conservative Victory Project, greeted on the front page of the New York Times as a harbinger of serial primary bloodbaths within the GOP, has done basically nothing in 2014 — as of mid-October, it had not spent a dime on any race. There haven’t been that many competitive primaries. The civil war never happened, except on the Internet and on radio.

Crossroads did get involved in an upstate New York primary in which Elise Stefanik, a former White House staffer and Paul Ryan aide, beat two-time loser Matthew Doheny and appears to be on her way to becoming the youngest woman in Congress — that’s a nice thing for Republicans to be able to point to, and it’s a Democrat-held New York seat going Republican. Doheny is a former Wall Street guy, and Stefanik is, among other things, “a principled and articulate pro-life leader,” according to the Susan B. Anthony List, so not an obvious squish. That seems like the sort of thing that should be making conservatives happy.

It isn’t.

About 48 hours after I emailed Rove to schedule an interview about this curious development, Brent Bozell published a piece in Politico under the unsubtle headline: “Karl Rove Is Ruining the GOP.” Rove is not enthusiastic about the prospect of discussing Bozell’s philippic, there being nothing to be gained by accepting an invitation to this particular pissing contest. But Bozell’s indictment was a strange one. He argues that Rove gives good political advice but that conservatives should ignore that advice because it comes from Karl Rove. He offers three data points to support his case: that Rove backed Arlen Specter over Pat Toomey in Pennsylvania, Charlie Crist over Marco Rubio in Florida, and David Dewhurst over Ted Cruz in Texas. But in none of those cases is it obvious that the conventional wisdom on the right — that Karl Rove was instrumental in backing the so-called Establishment candidates — is in fact true.

The big independent expenditures in favor of David Dewhurst were organized not from Planet Rove but by people close to a conservative favorite, Governor Rick Perry, whose former chief of staff founded a group dedicated to the sole purpose of sending Dewhurst to the U.S. Senate. The late Bob Perry (no relation to the governor), a stalwart backer of conservative and Republican causes, including Crossroads, was a major donor. Rove, who had relationships with more than one person in that four-way primary, kept the race at arm’s length. Bob Perry, being a grown-up, donated to Ted Cruz after spending $600,000 against him in the primary. In Florida, Crossroads spent real money helping Marco Rubio to defeat Charlie Crist in the general.

In the 2004 Toomey–Specter showdown, Senator Specter was carried across the finish line not by Rove but by a much more considerable figure: President George W. Bush, his right flank bolstered by Rick Santorum. Rove did toe the line, as expected, and in January 2004 gave a speech in Pennsylvania in which he identified Arlen Specter as the “one person” Republicans had in mind for the Senate race. Specter at that point was a quarter-century Republican incumbent. Team Bush might be faulted for its excessive loyalty — or for its excessive deference to incumbents, if you prefer — and Specter, identified by National Review as the worst Republican senator, was an almost uniquely distasteful difference-splitter and time-server. But the historical record suggests that Rove’s role has been considerably more complicated than Bozell has it.

And Crossroads et al. have since become valuable Toomey supporters, which is why both Bozell and other friends of Toomey are talking about the very same thing that Toomey’s Democratic opponents in Pennsylvania are talking about: Karl Rove. E.g., “Pat Toomey Should Reject Karl Rove’s Dirty Tricks.”

What is happening here is not that difficult to understand, if you understand conservatives. There are basically three roles that people play in the conservative movement: You can be (1) Ramesh Ponnuru or Reihan Salam, thinking rigorously about politics and policy; you can be (2) Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh, rallying the troops and providing frustrated foot-soldiers with catharsis; or you can be (3) Karl Rove, whose job it is to win elections. Conservatives are not very good at distinguishing between tacticians, eggheads, and entertainers, and though Rove is mainly in the tactician camp, his Fox News gig and his Wall Street Journal column put him in the public eye, an operative with one foot in the thinker-talker camp. And we conservatives have a hard time believing that our policy prescriptions and views are not as wildly popular as we’d like them to be, which is why every time a Republican loses an election, the Torquemadas among us begin their ritual denunciation: “We’d have won if only our guy had been pure enough, conservative enough, true-believing enough.” And then Republicans get buckets of campaign advice from people who have never had a hand in so much as a school-board election.

That fact is that in 2012, Republicans of all types lost, from tea-party guys such as Richard Mourdock to moderates such as Scott Brown. And Ronald Reagan himself could not have won the presidency as a Republican in 2008 with Christ Jesus as his running mate. The GOP was in bad odor, and not without some good reason.

The strange thing is that the party of free markets is having a hard time understanding an elementary concept from economics: the division of labor. Nobody is as good at what Rush Limbaugh does as Rush is, and nobody is as good at what Cato and AEI do as Cato and AEI are. But you don’t judge a guy like Karl Rove by whether he’s 100 percent right on immigration or chained-CPI, or by whether you like what you hear from him on Fox News. You judge him by his win-loss ratio. And his is pretty good.

Those conservatives who think that Karl Rove is what’s wrong with the Republican party should try getting a couple of presidents or governors elected first. Do keep us all informed about how that goes.

— Kevin D. Williamson is roving editor at National Review.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
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hoping this article would not be met with knee jerk hatred, but a quiet mind to weigh what it actually says
1 posted on 10/19/2014 5:02:30 AM PDT by shuck and yall
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To: shuck and yall
“I’m a myth,” Rove says...

No Karl. You're an @sshole. And, you almost singlehandedly have led the way for the GOP to morph into what it is today.

2 posted on 10/19/2014 5:11:48 AM PDT by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: shuck and yall

Good article. It reminds me of why Karl Rove is what is wrong with the Republican Party.


3 posted on 10/19/2014 5:12:50 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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Just a reminder Karl, baby........Repub "legend" Rove is POSITIVE Republicans can NEVER win the latino vote---UNLESS we open our borders and grant amnesty to those who sneaked into the US, and are riding the US gravy train, sucking off the backs of struggling US taxpayers 24/7...

In this regard, Rove is in lock-step w/ Sen McCain, prez wannabe Jeb Bush, AND blood-thirsty La Raza and Dummycrat Cong Gutierrez....all are in agreement. Read on.

At the recent La Raza conference in Cali---Cong Luis Gutierrez (Dem-Ill) lacerated Republicans; he threatened Republicans---saying vengeful latinos would make sure they never win another presidency.

La Raza President/ and chief hater, Janet Murguia, told hyphenates that it sickened her to hear Americans chanting. She accused Murietta, Cali protesters of having "cloaked their hatred in patriotism" by shouting "'USA! USA!' again and again."

"It made me angry," she said. "In fact, I was outraged."

Murguia demanded amnesty and said the road to the White House for Republicans goes through the Latino community and La Raza. She also said Republicans who want to rescind the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program will not get Hispanic votes. ####

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BTW, Karl---the buzz is the loud-mouthed insignificant Hispanics are bolting the Dem Party b/c Boobamba has not delivered.

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....and if Karl makes even ONE friendly move on these people....

4 posted on 10/19/2014 5:28:16 AM PDT by Liz
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To: shuck and yall

This is a snarky, piece of $hit article. National Review has really gone down hill since the days of William F Buckley.

Carl Rove is toxic sewage. That is a fact. He only cares about making money for himself and will not hesitate to throw conservatives under the bus.

The problem with the Republican party is that their are too many liberals in the USA. More than 100 million people will never vote for a party that stands for limited government, federalism, constitutional rule of law, etc, unless someone in the Republican party (Ted Cruz?) starts to educate the masses why they should vote for GOP candidates.

Unless that day comes soon, the GOP and the USA is finished.


5 posted on 10/19/2014 5:29:08 AM PDT by Flavious_Maximus
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To: shuck and yall
So one GOPe writes a love letter to another - big deal. Tokyo Rove is the face of the enemy. On November 5th we take a day off to celebrate and relax. On November 6th we start our war against the real enemy Rove and the GOPe.
In 2010 we made the Democrats afraid of us. Since then we have begun to make the media afraid of us (all their “TEA party is dead stories tell us that); now we have to complete the job and make the Republicans afraid of us.
6 posted on 10/19/2014 5:31:14 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: shuck and yall

http://m.nationalreview.com/article/390644/rove-agonistes-kevin-d-williamson


7 posted on 10/19/2014 5:32:40 AM PDT by maggief
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To: shuck and yall
"Those conservatives who think that Karl Rove is what’s wrong with the Republican party should try getting a couple of presidents or governors elected first."

This ignores that Rove/Romney decimated Sen Thompson,
and in the next election cycle Gov. Palin,
and in the next: Mr. Cain and the Speaker.

Adding in his lies about Iraqi WMD,
and his attacks on "witches" to destroy women candidates,
Rove is absolutely the reason why Obama is pRes_ _ent.

8 posted on 10/19/2014 5:40:33 AM PDT by Diogenesis (The EXEMPT Congress is complicit in the absence of impeachment)
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To: shuck and yall
Mr. Rove wasted 450 Million dollars with zero return.

Mr. Rove had too distance himself from his own PAC due to donors either not wanting to be associated with or seen to be associating with him for fear of backlash against their own interests.

Has led the attack on the Tea Party Movement as well as his own conservative base.

This article is nothing but Mr.Williamson trying to restore the Turd Blossom's shine by vigorously polishing his dull brown lump of a reputations exterior all the while oblivious to the fact he is tarnishing his as well as what remains of National Review’s.

Good luck with that Fellas!

9 posted on 10/19/2014 5:40:33 AM PDT by M.A.Meddybemps (Remember Mississippi! Eh-Yup!)
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To: M.A.Meddybemps

KR’s a perfect example of why you don’t want your enemy INSIDE your tent (big or small) who is ALSO pi$$ing INSIDE that same tent.

They do so much more damage on the inside.


10 posted on 10/19/2014 6:10:52 AM PDT by Flintlock
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To: shuck and yall

Too bad. We don’t measure someone’s worth by how many elections they have “won,” but by how they support the platform. When you look at the real record, Rove hasn’t done squat. He is just as responsible for all the major GOP losses, and the war on conservatives. Karl deserves everything he gets—he is the problem.

The National Review used to pretend to be conservative. . Buckley was often an establishment shill, but he wasn’t a complete lick spittle. He has to be up to 8500 RPM by now...


11 posted on 10/19/2014 6:16:44 AM PDT by antidisestablishment (When the passion of your convictions surpass those of your leader, it's past time for a change.)
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12 posted on 10/19/2014 6:38:59 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne
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13 posted on 10/19/2014 6:40:25 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne
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To: shuck and yall

I don’t have a problem with Karl Rove, but it would be nice if we had someone like Lee Atwater as the GOP’s pre-eminent political strategist rather than Rove, someone who understood how to go for the jugular while winning votes.


14 posted on 10/19/2014 7:01:44 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: shuck and yall
The article states that we should all defer to Pig Rove because he has a track record of winning, except that he doesn't win and it's not his fault that nobody likes or trusts the candidates he anoints.

No thanks. My hatred of Rove isn't knee jerk. I assure you my disdain for all things RINO is calm, calculated, and cold.

15 posted on 10/19/2014 7:13:09 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: shuck and yall

“Those conservatives who think that Karl Rove is what’s wrong with the Republican party should try getting a couple of presidents or governors elected first. Do keep us all informed about how that goes.”

Rove lost George Bush the popular vote his second time. As for his first “victory” it’s kind of like Mark Twain’s story of the angel telling the wicked rich man’s claim about successfully praying for the sun to rise—it was beside the point; it was predetermined beforehand.


16 posted on 10/19/2014 7:47:33 AM PDT by odawg
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To: shuck and yall
"hoping this article would not be met with knee jerk hatred, but a quiet mind to weigh what it actually says "

Okay, let me take a little time here to reflect and to weigh things carefully.

I'm calmly taking Rove's measure...I'm deliberating, considering, and pondering with all gravity.

..................Yep, he's still a GOPer. I have no use for him.

17 posted on 10/19/2014 7:54:20 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: CatherineofAragon; shuck and yall

+1


18 posted on 10/19/2014 8:06:56 AM PDT by Bigg Red (31 May 2014: Obamugabe officially declares the USA a vanquished subject of the Global Caliphate.)
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To: Sirius Lee; shuck and yall

+1


19 posted on 10/19/2014 8:07:33 AM PDT by Bigg Red (31 May 2014: Obamugabe officially declares the USA a vanquished subject of the Global Caliphate.)
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To: Bigg Red

Happy Sunday to you, Bigg Red. :)


20 posted on 10/19/2014 9:21:49 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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