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Ebola Victim's Family Prepares to Leave Quarantine (47 exposed to Duncan to be cleared Mon. 12am)
NBC DFW ^ | October 18, 2014 | Randy McIlwain

Posted on 10/18/2014 11:20:22 AM PDT by maggief

The first group of people exposed to Thomas Eric Duncan, the first person to die from Ebola in the United States, will no longer be considered at risk for the Ebola virus at 12 a.m. Monday.

After three weeks of isolation or self-monitoring, 47 people -- including Duncan's fiancee Louise Troh, her 13-year-old son and two nephews --- will be cleared and allowed to go on with their lives.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcdfw.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: duncan; duncanfamily; ebola; uspatientzero
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To: maggief

You're just going to have to catch Ebola to find out what's in it.

61 posted on 10/18/2014 1:28:26 PM PDT by Baynative (Did you ever notice that atheists don't dare sue Muslims?)
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To: Aria

I don’t remember exactly, but I think it was just a few days.


62 posted on 10/18/2014 1:33:42 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: maggief

What about the woman becoming ill at the Dart station whom

was on that same watch list as Duncan’s family.


63 posted on 10/18/2014 1:35:31 PM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: SE Mom

Thanks for the post. I will post it to the Ebola Surveillance Thread.


64 posted on 10/18/2014 1:36:42 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: palmer

I think the young step daughter helped their luck. She seemed to be somewhat sensible, in that she stopped the ambulance crew and told them to go back and get some protection.

She also apparently did some disinfection. I suspect that the family was also wary and perhaps avoided close contact after he became symptomatic, but who knows?


65 posted on 10/18/2014 1:36:49 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: maggief

They camped out with him while he was slinging contaminated snot and Ebola vomit all over the interior of the living room, but they are A-OK now...

They’ll probably have a big Halloween bash, n’ dress up like zombies, invite all the neighbors.


66 posted on 10/18/2014 1:43:50 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: ColdOne
"Wow so none of them got ebola BUT 2 nurses that came in contact with Duncan did. WOW." - ColdOne

That would be because Louise's 35 year old daughter, Youngor Jallah had some medical training and she was the one caring for Duncan. For each of the individuals living with Louise at the time of Duncan's visit (for lack of a better term) who impressively manage to come out this directly unscathed by Ebola, Youngor is the hero in this family.


67 posted on 10/18/2014 2:12:09 PM PDT by wtd
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To: maggief

I would say this pretty much indicates that it’s not airborne. It’s probably like polio, a fecal contamination (remember how swimming pools shut down in the 1950s?).

The family member who attended to Duncan was actually an LPN (or whatever they call it in Texas) and she not only wore gloves and washed her hands, but she washed in bleach, which seems to be very effective.

The hospital nursing staff who were infected, both here and in Spain, were using very low levels of protection and were guarding against a droplet borne illness. It’s clearly fecal contamination, which is why people tending to the dead or nurses cleaning up after a death are most at risk.

So that means touch is all. If you’re flying, get some Clorox wipes and clean your spaces (and avoid the airline head if possible!) and clean your hands regularly.


68 posted on 10/18/2014 2:42:49 PM PDT by livius
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To: palmer

Sorry, not buying it. Two highly trained nurses who used strict protocols were infected, but, somehow, a nurse’s aid was able to protect the shack-up and the rest of the apartment dwellers even though Duncan reportedly slept in more than one bed in the apartment — for whatever reason — and Duncan was vomiting?

Something is not right with this story.


69 posted on 10/18/2014 2:52:35 PM PDT by Bigg Red (31 May 2014: Obamugabe officially declares the USA a vanquished subject of the Global Caliphate.)
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To: maggief

Will they keep the FREE HOUSE???? YES they will!!!


70 posted on 10/18/2014 3:09:31 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Bigg Red
Sorry, not buying it. Two highly trained nurses who used strict protocols were infected,

The nurses got very little training in how to handle Ebola. They have made that clear in many statements.

71 posted on 10/18/2014 3:22:35 PM PDT by palmer (This comment is not approved or cleared by FDA)
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To: maggief

Out of the 47 only 39 will come down with the disease, stupidity riegns


72 posted on 10/18/2014 4:23:45 PM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: steve86
"Studies have suggested that the viral load by type of body fluid is quite idiosyncratic -- one patient may shed a lot of virus through saliva, another patient very little or none, etc. So everyone should be careful extrapolating from one patient to others."

That is itself curious, but it's good to know, and thanks for making an excellent point.

73 posted on 10/18/2014 4:29:39 PM PDT by PUGACHEV
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To: palmer

But everything is fine with the family? Still does not add up....


74 posted on 10/18/2014 4:38:03 PM PDT by Bigg Red (31 May 2014: Obamugabe officially declares the USA a vanquished subject of the Global Caliphate.)
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To: steve86

Could it also be how strong someone’s immune system is?


75 posted on 10/18/2014 6:16:54 PM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods)
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To: palmer

But they were trained in universal precautions, which is all the family would have been able to do at home.


76 posted on 10/18/2014 6:40:35 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Bigg Red
What people seem to be missing is the fact that an ebola victims starts without shedding any viruses and ends up shedding a lot When they are shedding a few there is a small chance of infecting others, but the odds are against it. From what I have read they could sneeze, spray saliva and infect someone. But leaving saliva on a surface would have a much lower chance of infecting someone.

In Duncan's case he was vomiting and had diarrhea. His vomit would have some virus in the early stages but not much until he vomits blood. In the scientific study http://jid.oxfordjournals.org/content/196/Supplement_2/S142.full the vomit samples had no viruses although sample size was ridiculously small (2). I suspect that early stage vomit and urine is too harsh an environment for virus survival versus when the late stage patient vomits up virus laden blood.

77 posted on 10/18/2014 7:14:49 PM PDT by palmer (This comment is not approved or cleared by FDA)
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To: maggief

Makes you wonder what they eat and drink living in the US vs Africa. Maybe there is something in the diet here that slows the incubation time.


78 posted on 10/18/2014 7:20:45 PM PDT by jetson (we got a bog fcking problem her)
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To: Mom MD
But they were trained in universal precautions, which is all the family would have been able to do at home.

See my previous post. The family at home had to deal with a lot less hazardous waste than the nurses. The difference if you read the study I linked, is blood. Blood has lots of viruses, saliva only has a few at the beginning due to enzymes breaking down the viruses. Once a victim like Patrick Sawyer was spewing blood on a flight hours before death we saw him infect the woman next to him and the flight attendants who cleaned up the blood. (no other passengers were infected). Nothing could have neutralized the virus at that point, not enzymes in the saliva or stomach acid...

79 posted on 10/18/2014 7:22:26 PM PDT by palmer (This comment is not approved or cleared by FDA)
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To: palmer

Anyone throwing up violently has blood in their emesis, whether visible or not. I am highly suspicious that the family was able to avoid infection given the close quarters and significant exposure. And there are plenty of viruses in units other than blood as well....


80 posted on 10/18/2014 7:26:46 PM PDT by Mom MD
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