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Officials Fear Ebola's on AIDS Path; Some Disagree
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Posted on 10/18/2014 2:42:42 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA

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To: NautiNurse

The current consensus is that HIV was introduced to Haiti by an unknown individual or individuals who contracted it while working in the Democratic Republic of the Congo circa 1966, or from another person who worked there during that time.[58] A mini-epidemic followed, and, circa 1969, yet another unknown individual brought HIV from Haiti to the United States. The vast majority of cases of AIDS outside sub-Saharan Africa can be traced back to that single patient[57] (although numerous unrelated incidents of AIDS among Haitian immigrants to the U.S. were recorded in the early 1980s, and, as evidenced by the case of Robert Rayford, isolated incidents of this infection may have been occurring as early as 1966.) The virus eventually entered male gay communities in large United States cities, where a combination of sexual promiscuity (with individuals reportedly averaging over 11 unprotected sexual partners per year[60]) and relatively high transmission rates associated with anal intercourse[61] allowed it to spread explosively enough to finally be noticed.[57]

Because of the long incubation period of HIV (up to a decade or longer) before symptoms of AIDS appear, and, because of the initially low incidence, HIV was not noticed at first. By the time the first reported cases of AIDS were found in large United States cities, the prevalence of HIV infection in some communities had passed 5%.[62] Worldwide, HIV infection has spread from urban to rural areas, and has appeared in regions such as China and India.

Does the above sound like Ebola? To think so is idiocy.


21 posted on 10/18/2014 4:50:58 AM PDT by mazz44
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To: Red in Blue PA

Aids path??? What nonsense!

The government IS NOT FOLLOWING standard protocol as they would in the past.

Ebola is expanding exponentially. Doubling of infected people every 21 days. This is because the average time it takes to detect is 21 days. This compared to Ebloa in the past that was only 3 days. Thus, why some people believe it was souped up in a lab. Oh and it did not follow a traditional route of the disease where it’s in one location out in the middle of no where. This popped up in 3 cities at the same time in West Africa.

Nevertheless, it’s a RNA disease that changes DNA every time it mutates. According to WHO (World Heath Officials) it has mutated over 300 times. Which means it will be airborne very quickly.

It kills very fast too. Once you have it you will not be around very for long too (3 to 4 weeks). It’s a brutal death too. Blood comes out of all of your Orpheus (ears, nose, mouth, but, etc...). The death ratio is as low 70% to as high at 90%. Currently according to WHO (World Health Organization) it has killed over 4,500 people.

28 countries have now banned anyone from these Ebola infected nations. These countries (Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea) economies are collapsing. The U.S. has become the dumping ground of this disease. The Administration admits they want to bring it here to control it. The CDC has admitted that over 700 West Africans come to our country daily, but they say we have nothing to worry about.

The Nurses that were around Patient 0 (Thomas Duncan) from West Africa the most are now positive. This is EVEN THOUGH they followed CDC protocol standards. The CDC said it’s the Nurses fault for not following their protocol. However, I believe the Nurses that said they followed CDC guidelines. One or both of them are probably not going to make it.

Just think the nurses were wearing all that protective gear, and the Ebola still got to them in less than 21 days. I have a bad feeling the stuff is already here spreading like wild fire all over the airports and at the border.

Just remember who to blame for this. When the public was screaming at them... They REFUSED. I guess they wanted to make sure it was here.

Make no mistake there is criminal liability here. They are breaking laws and violating protocols of a Level 4 Bio safety event.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosafety_level


22 posted on 10/18/2014 5:04:49 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: BobL

yes but in the beginning it did,Kimberly Bergalis,Arthur Ashe


23 posted on 10/18/2014 5:16:47 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: Red in Blue PA

If Liberian VISA holding visitors were taking the studio tours in Hollywood, stopping for a Broadway show, and visiting the Whitehouse, we’d have a ban on travel.


24 posted on 10/18/2014 5:17:16 AM PDT by anton
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To: Enlightened1

Bingo!!! This is not some political game. The comparison is just deflection. Everything, regarding this outbreak is beginning to look manufactured.


25 posted on 10/18/2014 5:22:57 AM PDT by mazz44
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To: Red in Blue PA

Bob Beckel on The Five keeps saying ‘there are only two Ebola cases in this country, JUST TWO’.

Yeah, that’s right Beckel, and the first case of Ebola in Africa didn’t start with just one, it started with what, Beckel?


26 posted on 10/18/2014 5:23:33 AM PDT by RetSignman (Obama is the walking, talking middle finger in the face of America)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Will Liberia be Obama’s Vietnam?


27 posted on 10/18/2014 5:24:36 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: Enlightened1

But unless a politician, a movie star, a homosexual, or family of any of the above contracts Ebola, the top political class, and te ignorant masses, aren’t going to make much of a deal of it. There are those who will, and let’s hope that it does more to make the less than fanatical blue voters start changing their minds. Let’s drive the point home that Obama and the Democrats neglected disease protocols an unleashed an Ebola massacre on the people of the U.S.


28 posted on 10/18/2014 5:41:51 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: Smokin' Joe

BOHICA!!!!


29 posted on 10/18/2014 5:53:01 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Ebola from obama can be transmitted by unprotected anal sex with reggie love.

OK with me.

If you have the the flu, do you stay at home or do you go out and mingle with your friends and family?

As a responsible person, you quarantine yourself, which is what the USA should do to the countries where obola emanates { and don't have anal sex with obama}.

30 posted on 10/18/2014 6:06:42 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Exterminate the terrorist savages, everywhere.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

If you want a strained AIDS analogy, ask what happens if a gay man gets Ebola and is cured. After recovery, his semen will still be infectious for roughly 3 months. Unless he’s unusually restrained, the gay community could be just as much a vector for Ebola as it was for AIDS. There’s one difference—a semen-infectious person is only an immediate threat to his partners. The partners become a threat to everyone.


31 posted on 10/18/2014 6:10:08 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: bert

Not unless Iraq falls. Then it is a tossup.


32 posted on 10/18/2014 6:13:05 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Iraq has already fallen. Iraq was.

Ditto Syria


33 posted on 10/18/2014 6:18:08 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Put in mind that one has a much faster progression with Ebola than with AIDS. Also put in mind that a struggling or weakened immune system make the chances of surviving Ebola much smaller.


34 posted on 10/18/2014 6:58:09 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: mazz44
because of the initially low incidence, HIV was not noticed at first.

Did you copy/paste this genius statement from Wiki, or another impeccable source?

35 posted on 10/18/2014 7:03:34 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Obama sends U.S. Marines to pick up his dog & basketballs. Benghazi? Nope.)
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To: Morpheus2009
Put in mind that one has a much faster progression with Ebola than with AIDS. Also put in mind that a struggling or weakened immune system make the chances of surviving Ebola much smaller.

What you say is true, but you're focusing on the particular patient. What I'm getting at is more like a mostly suppressed fire, where a single spark or glowing coal can kindle it all over again.

A cured male patient is still problematic for up to three months. If his behavior is problematic (i.e., sexually promiscuous in a way likely to transfer the dormant virus), it's like blowing on a small coal in the presence of tinder. The epidemic can be rekindled.

A similar concern has been evidenced with dogs. We know that they get the virus, but then they successfully fight it off over roughly 10 days. Are they infectious during this time? It's not known. Probably it's nowhere near as bad as from a human because they aren't bursting cells and shedding virus from all orifices. But it's a definite concern as to whether they can rekindle the infection in humans.

36 posted on 10/18/2014 7:06:06 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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” Those cases of heterosexuals contracting AIDS aren’t as minor as you think. If you think you’re immune to AIDS because you don’t engage in aberrant behavior, you are severely delusional.”

How many low-risk people died of AIDS last year in the US? And other than colleges in California where you have to have a signed permission slip to hold hands and beyond, I don’t see any signs of us returning to a Victorian Age regarding promiscuity.

Did we change the DNA (or RNA, to be specific) of AIDS so it wouldn’t bother what we call low-risk people, or was that always the case?

Read my comment again, I used the word NOW. I know there was a learning curve regarding the blood supply.


37 posted on 10/18/2014 7:28:29 AM PDT by BobL (Don't forget - Today's Russians learn math WITHOUT calculators.)
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To: CGASMIA68

“yes but in the beginning it did,Kimberly Bergalis,Arthur Ashe”

AIDS never spread as easily as EBOLA, not even close.


38 posted on 10/18/2014 7:41:56 AM PDT by BobL (Don't forget - Today's Russians learn math WITHOUT calculators.)
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To: NautiNurse

Try this: http://hivinsite.ucsf.edu/InSite?page=kb-00&doc=kb-01-03

A very telling excerpt, “The average time of HIV to Aids is approximately 10 years.”


39 posted on 10/18/2014 8:38:44 AM PDT by mazz44
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Okay, there is a point there. The only issue of a survivor giving it though, is that survivors are rare at this point. And there still isn’t that much latency for most infectees. Even with decent attempts at treatment, plenty of European doctors and Tom Duncan, still died, with modern technology treating their ebola condition. HIV is way more latent than ebola, even with a few survivors.


40 posted on 10/18/2014 9:12:37 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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