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World warned that Ebola ‘could be scourge like HIV’
The Guardian ^ | 10/17/2014 | Nichola Watt, et. al.

Posted on 10/17/2014 10:10:15 PM PDT by RightGeek

Britain and the United States have issued stark warnings that the international community will be responsible for a substantial loss of life in west Africa and a greater threat across the world unless the financial and medical response to the Ebola crisis is intensified.

As the World Health Organisation (WHO) admitted mishandling the early stages of the Ebola outbreak in west Africa, US secretary of state John Kerry said a failure to respond could turn Ebola into “a scourge like HIV or polio”.

In some of his strongest remarks since the outbreak of the virus, Kerry criticised the international community for providing only a third of the UN target of $1bn (£620m). Speaking to the Washington diplomatic corps at the state department, Kerry called on world leaders to provide cash, helicopters and treatment centres.

Reflecting growing impatience with the limited response from countries such as Russia and China, he said: “If we don’t adequately address this current outbreak now, then Ebola has the potential to become a scourge like HIV or polio, that we will end up fighting, all of us, for decades. And we shouldn’t kid ourselves. Winning this fight is going to be costly, it is going to take all of our efforts, and it is not risk-free.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ebola; hiv
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Offhand, I would say that Ebola is already a scourge like polio and worse than HIV and that it was a problem that money won't solve. But what do I know? I don't even have a magic hat.


1 posted on 10/17/2014 10:10:15 PM PDT by RightGeek
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It takes “active participation” to get HIV, and it kills slowly. If you don’t partake of certain high-risk activities, you simply will not get it.

Ebola kills QUICKLY, and can lie dormant for DAYS outside of a human body, waiting to infect a passerby.

You don’t have to be an active participant in an activity, you can get it simply from “casual contact” with a symptomatic person.

Comparing HIV to Ebola is POLITICAL, not reality.


2 posted on 10/17/2014 10:16:29 PM PDT by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: RightGeek

No, WHO, it is not like HIV. You don’t get HIV by being in the vicinity of an infected person.


3 posted on 10/17/2014 10:16:32 PM PDT by doug from upland (Obama and the leftists - destroying our country one day at a time)
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To: RightGeek

HIV? Wha? Why are people who run things insisting on being so stupid

This is not hiv


4 posted on 10/17/2014 10:18:49 PM PDT by stanne
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To: RightGeek
US secretary of state John Kerry said a failure to respond could turn Ebola into “a scourge like HIV or polio”.

But is it as bad as global warming?

5 posted on 10/17/2014 10:19:54 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: RightGeek

Too virulent. If contained geographically it will burn itself out.


6 posted on 10/17/2014 10:20:40 PM PDT by Cyman (We have to pass it to see what's in it= definition of stool sample)
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To: RightGeek

And where did Lurch receive his medical training?

Same place as the Ebola Czar?]


7 posted on 10/17/2014 10:21:46 PM PDT by Not now, Not ever! (Girlfriend suggested I use pelousy in place of swear words, A good idea, I think)
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Ebola ‘could be scourge like HIV’

Like HIV? Not likely. If Ebola gets out of control it will be more like the Black Death of the middle ages.

8 posted on 10/17/2014 10:22:42 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: Cyman

Whoops!


9 posted on 10/17/2014 10:26:13 PM PDT by chris37 (heartless)
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To: RightGeek

Here it comes. What ‘climate change’ couldn’t do for a global tax to the UN, and ‘Ebola tax’ will.


10 posted on 10/17/2014 10:31:07 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: tcrlaf

Duesberg was right.


11 posted on 10/17/2014 10:44:48 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Peace On Earth! Purity of Essence! McCain/Ripper 2016)
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If you don’t partake of certain high-risk activities, you simply will not get it.

Unless you're a healthcare worker that accidentally sticks themselves with an infected needle. And the fact is, engaging in sexual intercourse is human nature which is what makes HIV such a problem.

The reason that the HIV analogy is appropriate is that we have a disease here that was, initially, not taken seriously by the public for various reasons, but which went on to become an epidemic.

Ebola is known as a "high consequence pathogen". that means, the consequences of not taking it seriously are high, higher than HIV potentially. Or maybe not. But why would we want to take the chance.

I shouldn't say this but I liken it to the Tolkien's Balrog trying to cross the bridge of Kazzad Dum and I think it's a great analogy. You really should not allow a demon to cross the bridge into your world.

12 posted on 10/17/2014 10:47:22 PM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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Like HIV, except Ebola will kill those of us who are not homosexuals and don’t use prostitutes or dirty needles.
So as usual, except for being right about the urgency of quarantining Ebola, John Frikkin’s full of it.


13 posted on 10/17/2014 11:14:31 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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This is a poor comparison .. The Ebola is better compared to the 1918 Flu Epidemic or the Bubonic Plague.

AIDS can be totally avoided by changing one’s behavior — Ebola cannot to any significant degree except to become a very isolated hermit having never been exposed before becoming a hermit.

This is poor pitiful AIDS us propaganda


14 posted on 10/17/2014 11:24:33 PM PDT by ICCtheWay
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To: Forgotten Amendments
Duesberg was right.

I suspect he was too, but even Duesberg seems to have given up the fight. He'll no doubt be vindicated in the end.

15 posted on 10/17/2014 11:27:54 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: ICCtheWay

Also - the odd occurrence of sticking one’s self with a needle or a bad blood transfusion which happened back in the 1980’s

And there was NEVER a Heterosexual AIDS epidemic in America - period.. It was total propaganda done up to keep homosexuals from being the focus of the disease and news about the disease.

Yes AIDS was a heterosexual disease in Africa due to it being a HIV variant and that African men had extremely high incidence of having unprotected sex with prostitutes and bringing home to the wife.

Dennis Miller the comedian said in the late 1980s that ‘Who would have thought that having sex with 30 different guys a month would be bad for you’


16 posted on 10/17/2014 11:32:30 PM PDT by ICCtheWay
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To: RightGeek

In a related subject I have been reading an article on a research study proposing that the Black /Bubonic Plague was not just a disease caused by the bacteria Yersinia pestis. Rather they postulate that the Plague was two diseases the other being an Ebola like Hemorrhagic Fever. And that this Ebola like disease was the dominate disease in the Plague and killed the most people. Interesting Indeed - as it implies that the CCR5-Delta 32 Gene Mutation that allowed some people to survive the Black Plague untouched - could confer immunity to present day Ebola as it does to Small Pox (it is thought) and definitely provides immunity to HIV/AIDS


17 posted on 10/17/2014 11:37:01 PM PDT by ICCtheWay
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To: tcrlaf
"Active participation" is no longer sharing needles and sexual promiscuity. Simply, by boarding a commercial airliner, victims are "responsible" for what happens to them and everyone else (just like the CDC wants to blame the infected nurses for not following "protocol" that doesn't exist).

Ultimately, WE are to blame because WE have allowed the country to be taken over by amateur community organizers, leftists, muslims and queers.

18 posted on 10/18/2014 12:29:19 AM PDT by Rodamala
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To: 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...
Ping...

A link to this thread has been posted on the Ebola Surveillance Thread

19 posted on 10/18/2014 1:02:08 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: tcrlaf
It takes “active participation” to get HIV, and it kills slowly. If you don’t partake of certain high-risk activities, you simply will not get it. Ebola kills QUICKLY, and can lie dormant for DAYS outside of a human body, waiting to infect a passerby. You don’t have to be an active participant in an activity, you can get it simply from “casual contact” with a symptomatic person. Comparing HIV to Ebola is POLITICAL, not reality.

Hush you fear monger - didn't the WON say he had hugged and kissed nurses who had treated Ebola? Hasn't the CDC said that Bush must have infected the nurses who caught it?

Those who keep telling us how hard it is to catch can travel with their families to the not-hot spots all they want - me and mine will be prepared to stay as clear as possible. I wonder how many of them, like me, have a relative, and consequently a lot of friends, in the nursing business. They all tell me that our lack of preparation is a lot worse than even what the nurses union "whiners" have come out with.

20 posted on 10/18/2014 4:33:13 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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