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Nashville Police Chief: Secret Service Tried to Fool Armed Homeowner with Fake Search Warrant
The Truth About Guns ^ | 16 October, 2014 | Robert Farago

Posted on 10/16/2014 1:09:31 PM PDT by marktwain

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To: JimRed
“Since you are allowed to lie to me I have nothing to say to you. Show me your warrant or get off my property. Take it up with my lawyer"s Smith & Wesson.
41 posted on 10/16/2014 2:34:19 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: marktwain

Does the SS have so many spare officers with nothing to do (besides drinking and whoring) that they can’t be bothered to focus on credible instances where warrants are obtainable? I am sure if someone represented a credible threat, a warrant would be easy to obtain.


42 posted on 10/16/2014 2:37:32 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: null and void

NJCT? JBT?


43 posted on 10/16/2014 2:38:43 PM PDT by OwenKellogg (Fundamental transformation leads to ... ebola and vomitus for all!)
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To: marktwain

Our Constitutional right to free speech was precisely intended to protect political speech.


44 posted on 10/16/2014 2:44:49 PM PDT by Slyfox (Satan's goal is to rub out the image of God he sees in the face of every human.)
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To: Fido969

“Don’t these morons take an oath to defend the Constitution?”

Yah, and so did that PONS posing as POTUS, and that PONS heading the Justice Department...

We all have to stand up to these ‘3-letter’ people. That includes the SS and the FBI. I held my ground with the latter, and I am still here.


45 posted on 10/16/2014 2:46:15 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: marktwain

In the olden days, this would have resulted in someone doing prison time. Now it’s just an obscure news article that will come and go with nary a trace.


46 posted on 10/16/2014 2:47:58 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: marktwain

Bump


47 posted on 10/16/2014 2:59:55 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: elcid1970
Then the feds plug his name into the BATFE Form 4473 database.

If such a database exists, it is ILLEGAL, and heads should roll--yes, literally-- for constructing such a monstrosity.

Yes, it's true that BATFEral agents can go to a local gun store, and copy as many Forms 4473 as they can carry. But making a database of them, and then searching it using a citizens' name, is SPECIFICALLY ILLEGAL at the Federal level.

Not that Obama's thugs would obey that law, of course.

48 posted on 10/16/2014 3:16:59 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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To: marktwain

Bttt.

5.56mm


49 posted on 10/16/2014 3:19:30 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: marktwain

The easy answer to this is that under the pressure of the administration, the Secret Service is falling apart.

This has been suggested elsewhere in recent weeks.

Secret Service Director Julia Pierson, testifying before congress on Sept 30, 2014. She resigned two days later.

“This is disgraceful. This is beyond the pale. I wish to God you protected the White House like you are protecting your reputation here today,” said Democratic Rep. Stephen Lynch.

Several legislators hammered at the concern that Secret Service agents feel unable to tell their superiors about security problems. The greatest concern seemed to be with the culture of the Secret Service, if it had become dysfunctional, and if agents were demoralized.

Recurring reports of misbehavior within the agency, cause “many people to ask whether there is a much broader problem with the Secret Service,” said Rep. Elijah Cummings of Maryland, top Democrat on the committee.


50 posted on 10/16/2014 3:49:51 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: marktwain

Prolly offered up a bottle of licker! That’ll do it!


51 posted on 10/16/2014 4:14:41 PM PDT by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, wasn't there!)
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To: gaijin

She was driving a 2 ton weapon around and mentally ill.


52 posted on 10/16/2014 4:37:54 PM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (You can have a free country or government schools. Choose one.)
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To: backwoods-engineer

And who, pray tell, is going to do the head rolling?

A little story: I was stationed in Germany in 1981 and took with me a snubnose S&W .38. To bring it back again I had to prove that I had bought it before leaving the States.

I wrote to BATF & they replied with a nice letter that stated “our records show that you purchased this revolver SN#XXXXX on October 12, 1973. You may use this letter as proof of prior purchase.”

That was 33 years ago. It’s illegal to place 4473’s in a central file or database? Hmm.....


53 posted on 10/16/2014 4:50:59 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("I am a radicalized infidel.")
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JBT Ping list


54 posted on 10/16/2014 5:16:12 PM PDT by null and void ("Agoraphobia": fear of the marketplace; "AlGoreaphobia": fear of the marketplace of ideas.)
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To: elcid1970

If you included the make, model and serial number of the revolver in your letter, then they traced the revolver to you by contacting the maker, the wholesaler, and the retailer to obtain the information. That is legal under current law.

It would be illegal if they could put your name into a search engine and the revolver popped up.

There is an exception. There is a law requiring sales of more than two handguns in a week to an individual be reported on a special form. That was done *before* Congress forbid establishment of a national registry. Those guns are in a national database, which was grandfathered in.


55 posted on 10/17/2014 4:18:10 AM PDT by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: SpaceBar

“In the olden days, this would have resulted in someone doing prison time. Now it’s just an obscure news article that will come and go with nary a trace.”

Maybe if a Republicans were in the White House, and Democrats controlled Congress.

The big difference now is that there is an article about it, and we can read about it and look at the documents.

Watergate was a media coup to throw a Republican out of office. It demonstrated to politicians and those in the old media that they we really lived in a mediocracy.


56 posted on 10/17/2014 4:22:50 AM PDT by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: marktwain

In 1983 I did provide the make, model & serial# to BATF because I no longer had the bill of sale which would have sufficed to re-import the gun.

They took that & provided me with the date of purchase & address of the store where I had bought the gun. Back to me in three weeks when overseas mail still took a week to get there.

Since this was not part of a criminal investigation but a request for confirmation of ownership, BATF’s speed in replying was pretty amazing for the time.

IMO I think databases existed even then.

Could explain why nowadays “unpapered” guns are sought after.


57 posted on 10/17/2014 5:23:12 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("I am a radicalized infidel.")
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