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Second Ebola-Infected Nurse Identified, Was Symptomatic With 99.5 Degree Fever While Flying
Zero Hedge ^ | 10/15/2014 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 10/15/2014 11:59:01 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Just about an hour ago, the CDC's Tom Frieden held a press conference in which he tried to diffuse the CDC's incompetence for a allowing healthcare workers who cared for the now deceased "Index Patient" Thomas Eric Duncan, to board a plane. A worker, who as was reported earlier today, was confirmed sick with the deadly virus. Still, in order to defend his agency from accusations of gross incompetence, of which it clearly is guilty, Frieden said that...

... Although, he promptly pushed the ball of blame back in her court adding that:

But what is worse, is that as the WaPo reports the nurse had a fever of 99.5 degrees Fahrenheit before boarding a passenger jet on Monday, a day before she reported symptoms of the virus and was tested, according to public health officials. "Even though there appeared to be little risk for the other people on that flight, she should not have traveled that way, Thomas Frieden, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said during a news conference Wednesday."

“She should not have flown on a commercial airline,” Frieden said.

The reason he said that is that since she was clearly symptomatic, she was also contagious. Which explains why the CDC is scrambling to uncover all those passengers who may have flowen with her. 

Furthermore, the nurse has now been identified: "The health-care worker was not identified by public health officials, but family members told Reuters and the Dallas Morning News that her name is Amber Vinson, a nurse at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital. She was part of a team that had cared for Thomas Eric Duncan, a Liberian man who flew to Texas and was diagnosed with Ebola last month, during his hospitalization in Dallas. Duncan died last week. Nina Pham, a nurse who also cared for Duncan, was diagnosed with Ebola on Sunday."

And where it gets simply ridiculous is that not only did the nurse fly once, she flied a second time, this time from Cleveland to Texas on Monday.

Vinson, who flew from Dallas to Cleveland on Friday, flew back to Texas on Monday, a day after Pham was diagnosed. She reported a fever on Tuesday and was isolated and tested for Ebola.

 

Still, the fact that she boarded a commercial flight raises the question of how much the other 50 health-care workers who entered Duncan’s room could have traveled or moved around in recent days. The CDC recommends controlled movement on private flights or vehicles for people who may have been exposed to Ebola, Frieden said.

Meanwhile, the panic to contain the possible spread of the airborne virus is full blown: as WFAA reports, "Frontier Airlines says the plane stayed at DFW International Airport overnight, and has since been cleaned. It traveled to Cleveland on Tuesday and was cleaned again. The airline says Vinson traveled to Ohio from Dallas-Fort Worth on Flight 1142 on Oct. 10.

"The safety and security of our customers and employees is our primary concern. Frontier will continue to work closely with CDC and other governmental agencies to ensure proper protocols and procedures are being followed," the airline said in a press release.

Some other details:

Wednesday morning, Mayor Mike Rawlings confirmed that Vinson lives alone without pets at The Green in the Village Apartments, in the 6000 block of Village Bend near Skillman, just north of Lovers Lane.

 

 

Police and Dallas Fire-Rescue teams were at the complex early Wednesday, cleaning common areas and knocking on doors, communicating with neighbors. Reverse 911 calls were sent out at 6:15 a.m. to people who live in the area.

 

"We rallied together and we decided that we needed to move quickly like we did Sunday morning," Mayor Rawlings said.

 

He added that the state has hired a company to come in Wednesday afternoon and clean Vinson's apartment and car.

 

Like Pham, Vinson had also been involved in caring for Thomas Eric Duncan, the Liberian man who died of Ebola one week ago at Presbyterian. More than 70 hospital employees had been involved in that effort and are still being monitored.

So despite the epic Snafu that Tom Frieden has managed to achieve, and we fully expect that airplane travel will see a substantial decline until the Ebola pandemic is indeed contained, we will give him props for telling one piece of the truth this weekend, when he said that "more Ebola cases are likely going to emerge." At least this time, he was telling the truth.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: ambervinson; ebola; flight
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To: Cboldt

> 99.5F is not a “fever.” At least not by clinical definition of “fever.”

Might be for her. Would be for me.

But even if we agree that it’s not, we’re still relying on CDC and WHO dogma that the infected aren’t contagious until symptomatic. Is that true for the current strain?

Given the number of medical workers infected and killed, compared to prior outbreaks, something is different this time:
? contagious when pre-symptomatic
? more air-mobile than previously
? more infectious (say, via unbroken skin contact)

One of the first doctors infected in this outbreak (in Africa) was reported to be speculating on how he caught it, as he’d followed “protocol”. All he could recall was hugging an old-friend nurse on arrival, who later developed symptoms.

This is an extremely dangerous virus, and one empowered by the criminal incompetence (I’m being charitable) of the Obama administration.


21 posted on 10/15/2014 12:25:29 PM PDT by Boundless (Survive Obamacare by not needing it.)
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To: VerySadAmerican

Dr. Frieden said today that the guidelines were not clear about traveling on an aircraft if a person had been “exposed”. He intended to add this to the guidelines today!!
He really is failing as a so called CDC leader.
I am a medical person. To me, the onus was on the nurse NOT to fly, because she knew her colleague had Ebola. I feel this was irresponsible behavior on her part.


22 posted on 10/15/2014 12:27:12 PM PDT by pugmama
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To: Boundless
-- ... we're still relying on CDC and WHO dogma that the infected aren't contagious until symptomatic. --

Seems the dogma is changing, but what I wonder is whether the change is based on medical science, or public pressure/panic. I do agree this is a serious virus, and the government's approach to it so far has made an impression on me.

I must say, the impression confirms my bias. The government is incompetent at best, and oft malicious.

23 posted on 10/15/2014 12:34:19 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: SeekAndFind

She flew home to go to her wedding shower! Of all the inconsiderate “thank you” gifts to give to your friends and family for their kindness! And given today’s (lack of) morals, her fiancé needs to be warned that after sharing her bed and her “charms” while she was home, he probably—no, definitely!— has Ebola. As well as his family, their contacts and so on.


24 posted on 10/15/2014 12:34:35 PM PDT by JoyjoyfromNJ (everything written by me on FR is my personal opinion & does not represent my employer)
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To: SeekAndFind

But was she leaking virus particles?


25 posted on 10/15/2014 12:35:27 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: goodnesswins

They’re entitled. Like Dallas patient zero. Confirmatory pictures are in at least the UK media.


26 posted on 10/15/2014 12:35:32 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: JohnBovenmyer

And we’re off to the races!


27 posted on 10/15/2014 12:37:44 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Gadsden1st
Sawyer was a runner to Nigeria.

Connecting flight. He could get back to the US nonstop from Lagos.

He lived in a suburb of Minneapolis (25,000 strong Liberian Community, there) and was probably going to try to make it home or to the Mayo Clinic...

28 posted on 10/15/2014 12:47:56 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The CDC is just not going to be happy til they get this thing ramped up and killing us all.


29 posted on 10/15/2014 12:49:52 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...
Ping...

A link to this thread has been posted on the Ebola Surveillance Thread

30 posted on 10/15/2014 12:52:27 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Cboldt

The CDC doesn’t consider anything under 101.5 to be significant even if you’d been cleaning up an Ebola patient’s poo.


31 posted on 10/15/2014 1:05:09 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: SeekAndFind

she flied a second time

Sh, she was twice flied?

Honestly, do these people even graduate high school?
Wait, forget I asked that, they are probably college
grads.


32 posted on 10/15/2014 1:05:18 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Shemp was on something today during that tirade.


33 posted on 10/15/2014 1:07:54 PM PDT by miserare (2014--The Year We Fight Back!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Weren’t we all told that those who were exposed to Duncan were being monitored? Apparently, no quarantine - although we were told that Duncan’s relatives were quarantined. Why not the healthcare professionals who were with an Ebola infected patient?

So now, add to the list of those already exposed:
Passengers on the flight from Cleveland to Dallas
and possibly the flight to Cleveland (if this nurse was irresponsible enough to get on a commercial flight knowing she was exposed, why would we believe that her fever only developed on Monday?) Presumably, TSA is not screening for fevers in Cleveland and Dallas - so much for that “protocol”.


34 posted on 10/15/2014 1:08:00 PM PDT by milford421 ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke))
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To: BuffaloJack

Wedding planning, or a booty call?


35 posted on 10/15/2014 1:08:47 PM PDT by miserare (2014--The Year We Fight Back!)
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To: miserare

“Wedding planning, or a booty call?”

I guess we find out the boyfriend’s name in a few days when he shows up at a hospital.


36 posted on 10/15/2014 1:35:55 PM PDT by wrench
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To: SeekAndFind
So now we're finally hearing about other infected. I raised this questions 9 days ago on FR "Also, we haven't heard if the medical workers who examined him are infected or not.".

Our news agencies, government, and health system needs help. It was totally obvious there were likely going to be cases among those who treated Duncan, especially because he was sent home with clear symptoms. The real question is why are the government and hospital so incompetent as to not isolate these people who were exposed.

God bless the nurses, but the biggest concern now is not the nurses. It's that some low information person who was in that waiting room with Duncan, or maybe in his examination room after him, is sick at home thinking they have flu when in reality he's dying with Ebola and spreading it to his family and friends. If this happens, now it's in the wild and hundreds of thousands could end up dying.

So we have a 2 to 3 weeks waiting period to see what happens.

37 posted on 10/15/2014 1:39:30 PM PDT by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: miserare

I think someone called from Upstairs and told him to calm it down. Also, the Dow started crashing during his rant.


38 posted on 10/15/2014 2:28:05 PM PDT by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: ClayinVA

He better cool it, or he will be getting a call from waaay Upstairs. He is a heart attack waiting to happen.


39 posted on 10/15/2014 2:32:40 PM PDT by miserare (2014--The Year We Fight Back!)
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To: miserare

I think he’s looking for a job on MSNBC. The boy is unreal. Talk about gullible. He believes EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING his government says.


40 posted on 10/15/2014 4:43:42 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Ebola and Enterovirus-D68. Proud members of Viruses Without Borders.)
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