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To: Vendome

But .. I’m not talking about police units just walking into a neighborhood and taking someone’s home and cars.

I’m talking about DRUG MONEY. It’s all cash .. it has no markings of where it came from. When a drug bust is made, aside from drugs, there is always CASH. That is what I’m talking about.

Many times, there could be up to a few thousand to maybe a few million.

I see no reason for those CASH DOLLARS not to be utilized by police units .. to have better equipment in order to find more of the drug runners coming into America.

It isn’t STUFF - it’s CASH. Get it!!!!!

In my own city, a monumental drug bust captured a helicopter which the drug people owned. After they were convicted, the helicopter was given to the police unit which made the drug bust. It flies over my apartment almost every day; it’s hangar is located just a few miles away. That piece of equipment has been a really great addition to our police dept.

How about losing the condescending attitude. I know exactly what I’m talking about .. and you’re the one who is confusing CASH from a drug bust with illegally appropriating physical property (usually from a cabinet dept police enforcement unit). These people are not real cops - these people are used to intimidate the public.


72 posted on 10/12/2014 12:41:23 PM PDT by CyberAnt (True the Vote: " MY AMERICA, ... I'm terrified it's slipping away.")
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To: CyberAnt

I’m condescending?

Usually, I’m rightly accused for my sarcasm but, I agreed with your original premise, in spirit.

Asset forfeiture, in most cases, is a matter of civil forfeiture and usually divorced from the original cause of criminalaity.

If the case you are referencing was adjudicated, under criminal law, then I have zero problem with that.

If, however, as has been the case 1 too many times, the assets are seized under civil law then I say it’s wrong.

Civil forfeiture puts the onus on the person whose property was seized to prove the source of money and they acquired it legitimately.

BTW, when did “money or cash” cease being private property?

I look forward to discussing and will refrain from condescension.

Sarcasm or Irony are hallmarks of Freepers.

Condescension is generally not, as once employed, turn the conversation to pointedly and pointless personal attacks.

Best to argue the imperatives of legitimacy and ideas.

Post on.


86 posted on 10/12/2014 1:27:22 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: CyberAnt

“Real cops” should have no problem with the following reform:

No asset forfiteure without a conviction.
Assets can be impounded for 30 days and during trial. If no charges are filed then the assets are automatically released with no fines / fees or court action required.
If local laws prohibit asset forfiteure then the Feds cannot send money to the local government under federal asset forfiteure programs.
Departments charged with false arrest are subject to a civil fine equal to the value of assets impounded.


93 posted on 10/12/2014 2:17:53 PM PDT by csivils
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To: CyberAnt
Why should it go to the police? It Should be placed in escrow until after a trial, if it is found to be funds earned in an illegal endeavor, the money is then distributed to schools districts, scholarships, public works or local small business loans etc. if the cops do not get the money, watch how fast the level of seizures drop.
117 posted on 10/13/2014 7:37:10 AM PDT by OldGoatCPO
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